Ties in step entry
Recent versions of MuseScore have a strange behavior when modifying a tied note in step entry mode. Let's say you just added four quarter note Cs to a score and have tied the third and fourth ones. Then you decide you wish to change the two tied notes to a new note. In previous versions, you could just position the cursor on the first of the tied notes, and type the new note, +, then the tied note. It would overwrite any note in the position of the tied note. But in the current version, it instead adds the tied note as a chord to the previously existing tied note (the note you're trying to remove). To me this is extremely annoying.
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BTW on the side, IMHO the first note change should carry over to the tied note. I.e. if the tied notes are of the pitch C and the user changes the first C to a D, the tied note should also follow suit. This happens if you use the up or down arrows on the first tied note, or any of the tied notes, so why not have the same behavior with entering a new pitch with tied notes?
It's at least as common to want to add a new note to a chord as it is to want to change the pitch of two tied notes, so the new behavior should be more what is wanted most of the time. If all you want to do is change pitch of a note, the arrow keys do that more directly, and the tied note is changed automatically. Or if you have lots of notes to change the pitch of, that's what Repitch mode is for.
In reply to It's at least as common to by Marc Sabatella
My experience with transcription leads me to believe otherwise. I almost never want to tie into a chord.
I often find myself in the following situation:
1) I have just entered some notes: a quarter then a 16th note.
2) Oopsie! I played the wrong note on the 16th. I wanted to tie to an 8th not add a distinct 16th.
3) Back up to the first note and select the correct rhythmic value.
4) Press +.
4) MuseScore will erase the "extra time" in favor of matching rhythmically with the existing note, and add the tie to a chord with the existing note.
In reply to My experience with by nikrepka
I don't understand. If you enter a quarter tied to a sixteenth, then you don't "play" the sixteenth at all. You simply enter the tie, and the pitch is entered automatically, based on the quarter. If you had the wrong pitch for the quarter, you'd normally discover that *before* entering the tie, not after. Or maybe you meant, you intended to have 8th selected when hitting the tie button, not 16th? if so, that's easy enough to correct as well - Ctrl+Z to undo, then 4, then + again. Still no need to laboriously re-enter both notes. So I'm not understanding the use case you are describing?
But in any event, as I said, if you do for whatever reason change your mind about the pitches, just use the arrow keys. You don't even even need to cursor back - they will work just as well right after entering the tie as they would if you first cursored back
As for tied chords, these are extremely common in piano and guitar music, so that is that the "new" workflow is designed to facilitate. Formerly, if you had a single-line melody that included tied notes and then you wanted to go back and fill out the voicings by adding more notes, it was quite awkward to do so in the presence of ties. The current system greatly simplifies that process.
In reply to I don't understand. If you by Marc Sabatella
Yes, the idea is that (and this happens to me fairly often) you may have entered a second note which is of a different pitch or rhythmic value by mistake, only to discover it after the fact. Ctrl+Z works when you realize it right away, otherwise it's a lot of left arrows, deleting and redoing.
In reply to Yes, the idea is that (and by nikrepka
Again, though, no need to delete or redo anything. Simply use the up/down arrows to change pitch - that's what they are there for. Much more efficient. In any case, again, the goal is to make normal note entry more efficient, and adding notes to already-tied chords is a very common thing to need to do in piano or guitar music. Fixing the occasional mistake that isn't caught until much later isn't as common a thing, and in any case, as I've said, there is already a much better way of doing that.
In reply to Again, though, no need to by Marc Sabatella
Pitch mistakes yes, but rhythmic mistakes (as far as I know) require one to exit note entry mode, click the note with the mouse, change the duration, re-enter entry mode.
In reply to Pitch mistakes yes, but by nikrepka
No, that's not the case either. Try "Q" and "W" while in note input mode. Although I'm confused, because it seemed your original post was talking about entering a new pitch and it forming a chord. And I thought the implication was you wanted to make this change much later, so probably not still in note input mode. So I'm still not quite understanding. Might still help to take a step back and be a but more specific about the particular mistake you are trying to fix, then we can help show you the most efficient way to do it.
In reply to No, that's not the case by Marc Sabatella
Oh wow I had no idea about Q and W.... That will come in handy. This issue for me is mainly occurring after I have entered a fair bit of music, but have one tied note along the way having the wrong duration. Usually what has been the easiest and fastest thing for me (since I'm very fast at note entry) is just to back up to the point of the mistake, and re-enter everything on top of the existing music, having it overwrite what was there. (Obviously I wouldn't do this for a very long or intricate segment.)