Rebar?
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Is there any possibility to auto-rebar music in Musescore?
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Is there any possibility to auto-rebar music in Musescore?
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Again, this seems to refer to tieing over the middle of a bar.
See http://musescore.org/en/node/23192
In reply to Again, this seems to refer to by xavierjazz
or maybe a little different.
I was thinking Rebar many measures after the fact to clean up rests, ties properly and so on.
Not any addons or something?
In reply to or maybe a little by G-Sun
Not that I knkw of, but I agree that this feels like a good opportunity for a plugin. The 1.3 plugin framework can't handle ties, but 2.0 might, so hopefully it will become possible.
There are a number of reasons I think a plugin run on a selection makes more sense than trying to do this on the fly during note entry The fact that it might be needed for clean up after editing is definitely one. Also, to do it right - to handle all the corner cases for different time signatures - would likely require looking at the whole measure, meaning you can't always make correct decisions for a measure until all the notes are entered. There's also a subjective element here - different publishers use different rules for these sorts of things. It's really a can of worms. Which isn't to say it isn't worth doing - just that it seems a much more natural fit as a plugn - where the job could be done well - rather than something to try to do during note entry, where it would likely be too limited to be truly useful.
In reply to Not that I knkw of, but I by Marc Sabatella
Yes, I understand there are many cornercases and different preferences.
This ties into import from midi as well, as then such interpretation has to be done on a native level.
Copy your 4/4 music, create a 2/4 sheet, paste it there. If I recall correctly, MuseScore places any pasted music nicely in any time signature. So you will force the 4th notes into two tied 8th notes everywhere where you have them in the middle of a 4/4 bar.
After that, copy and paste it back to your 4/4 score. The tied 8ths should remain tied 8ths.
In reply to Semi-auto by jotti
Clever, but way too invasive. It's not *everything* that needs to broken up; only certain notes depending on where they start in the measure and what else is also in the measure. The method you describe would break up half notes starting on 2, dotted half notes starting on 1 or 2, and whole notes.
In reply to Clever, but way too invasive. by Marc Sabatella
Yes, a half note on 2nd beat shouldn't be broken, unless the bar starts with two 8ths or something even more complex. I don't know if there are any particular rules, but I think it's the score writer's responsibility to write readable notes. I guess these problems arise only, when you import midi. I don't think anyone wants MuseScore to automatically correct stuff while you write your score. If I want two tied 4ths in the middle of the bar, I write two tied 4ths, not a half note, counting on MS to fix it for me.
In reply to Right by jotti
Some *are* suggesting this be done automaticlly on note entry, the same way entering a half note on the last beat of a measure automaticlly breaks it into a tie. But because it is so sibjective, and because it should never be absolute the way it is with barlines, and because the real utility of this comes in for import, to cleanup edits (including copy/paste), I'm arguing a separate pass run after the fact makes more sense. Some of this is apparently already implemented for MIDI in 2.0 but I haven't played with it enough to say how well it works.
Yes,
this typical is a problem for me on midi import.
(I tend to compose in a DAW then export midi)
Case2:
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(this is a preference)
and case3:
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![Rebar6.png]( "Rebar6.png")
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(This is more obvious)
I must say however that Musescore has some well thought of editing behavior when dealing with these things manually (comparing with Notion).
In reply to More examples by G-Sun
...is good, if you want to emphasize the 3/8 + 3/8 + 2/8 feel in the rhythm, even though you might have a 4/4 time signature. But if you want to keep the 4 beat feel, I'd write it:
In reply to Your software can't really know what you want by jotti
Sorry, my mistake, I only looked at the first beat.
Yes, your corrected version is the preferred for 4/4.
Anyway, I looked at Notions midi import and it handles these things very good.
So I'll import the midi in there, then maybe to Musescore for editing via xml.