Chord symbols vs. guitar diagrams
Right now the two are fighting with each other.
They are both vying for the exact same space above the staff.
I would like them to co-exist peacefully. :)
I would like the chord symbol to be fairly tight above the staff and the chord diagram above the chord symbol.
Currently I must manually move each chord symbol in place, tight to the stave and then move each chord diagram above the chord symbol.
It would be nice if each symbol/diagram knew where to be placed once I showed it how initially.
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I know nothing about the fret diagrams, but I know you can set the default height for chord symbols in Style / General / Chord Symbols. There seems to be a setting there looks like it is supposed to affect fret diagrams, but I have no idea how or if it works.
In reply to I know nothing about the fret by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc. The Style/General/Chord Symbols settings are a little helpful.
I can now position my chords at a specific height.
But despite a setting which says "Distance to fretboard diagram", it doesn't matter what number I assign to it.
The fretboard diagram will always present itself right on top of the chord diagram.
In reply to Thanks Marc. The by ScoreMark
I'm looking at this now. It seems from the code that this facility is designed to work so that the chord symbol automatically positions itself relative to the fret diagram, *if* the chord symbol actually attached to the fret diagram as opposed to being attached to a note or rest (more technically, if the parent of the chord symbol is a fret diagram rather than a segment). But I can't find any way to actually make this happen - no way to force a chord symbol to be a child of a fret diagram.
Does anyone know how this is supposed to work?
In reply to I'm looking at this now. It by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for taking a look Marc.
Maybe you could approach it the way I normally do?
I input the chord symbols first (attached to a note/beat).
_Then after the chords are entered I input the guitar diagrams.
Maybe the guitar diagrams could take their lead from the chord symbols and adjust to being above them (with a little space in between)?
So if chord symbols are entered, the guitar diagrams could follow with their proper placement.
If however, there are no chord symbols, the guitar diagrams could be placed where the chord symbols would normally be.
This way all the bases would be covered:
1. A straight chord symbol score
2. A chord symbol / guitar diagram combo score
3. A straight guitar diagram score.
In reply to Thanks for taking a look by ScoreMark
Well, the norm is for chord symbols to display *above* fretboard diagrams, not below. Although presumably if this facility worked at all, you could force them below with an appropriately large value for that setting. And also, I think it should work regardless of what order you create the symbols. But if it requires you enter either the fret diagram or the chord symbol a special way in order to link them, I can handle that - I just want to know what is, if it in fact exists.
But yes, it should work in all three cases you list. Right now, I also don't see a way to directly control the distance of the fret diagram from the top of staff. Seems there should be three parameters:
- height of fret diagram
- height of chord symbols when appearing alone
- height of chord symbols when appearing with a fret diagram
In reply to Well, the norm is for chord by Marc Sabatella
Yes you are absolutely correct about having chord symbols (names) displayed above fretboard diagrams as being the norm.
You will notice that currently, in the nightly build, there is no provision for naming the fretboard diagrams.
When fretboard diagrams are named or titled (with chord symbols)
the chord symbols however are no way as large as what we see for the default chord symbol size in MuseScore.
Typically, for fretboard diagrams the size that we now have in the nightly build, the chord symbol above it would be the size of about two or three frets.
In the Fretboard Diagram Properties box (right-clicking on the fretboard diagram) it would be nice to have an option to display the chord name (chord symbol) above the fretboard diagram or not. Possibly having the name active, by default (the default being 'C').
As far as distances are concerned, it would be nice for the user to be able to fine-tune the distance of both the chord symbols and/or guitar diagrams above the staff.
As for default placement of the three possibilities, it's quite good for two of them right now.
The size and position of just the chord symbols is perfect.
The size and position of just the guitar diagrams is also perfect now (they just need the ability to be named).
For the situation where the two would be combined (I have this set up in one of my scores) a good positioning would be:
- assign the chord symbol location to where it would reside on its own.
- assign the guitar diagram's distance above the chord symbol to be about 1.5 the distance that the chord symbol resides from the top of the staff.
The software would adjust all the chords symbols and guitar diagrams vertical placement accordingly, if the two were combined in one chart.
Musescore would also keep the height of the guitar diagrams uniform, even if a number of guitar diagrams didn't have chord symbols below them.