Rests seem locked to the end of the measure??
Lovely program thanks. Much great future at hand.
How to move rests or move notes after the rest? Even if I do this graphically, the rest still plays at the end of the measure:
I have a 3:2 Tallis score with three quarter notes in the first measure. I have spent several hours trying different tricks, none work: the rests are always played at the end of the measure:
+ Tried moving the rests to the front. This succeeds, but the notes are jumbled. (Note to self, we need an auto-rearrange feature to redistribute the notes in the measure..)
+ Tried deleting the measure. This correctly inserts a full rest. But if I then try reinserting notes, the rest plays at the end of the measure. Indeed, it only allows note insertion *before* the rest.
+ Tried adding the notes to the *next* measure, but that got things all jumbled.
+ Tried inserting a measure and putting the notes there, but once again the rest forces itself t o the end of the measure.
Can gladly upload the score if that would help... but I need to be told how to do that...
Kind regards, Andy
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To upload a score, click "File attachments" right below where you type a message. Should be straightforward after that.
But the basic thing to realize is, MuseScore is not a graphics editor, so you don't simply move notes and rests around like you would symbols that have no meaning. They have specific time positions that are set when you enter them and don't change until you explicitly change them. If you want to change the time position of a group of notes - moving them later in the measure, for example - you can use cut and paste to copy them to the correct time position.
Of course, if it's as simple as wanting three quarter notes moved to the end of the measure, just as easy is to re-enter the notes, this time entering the rest first.
In reply to To upload a score, click by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for the reply. ChurchOrganist and underquark provided the solution.
As for modifying scores, of course it is not as simple as simply re-doing the first three notes. There are tons of scores... I'm scanning them with a flatbed at different resolutions and learning about that with Audiveris.
There are many parameters for the scans and Audiveris only likes some of them. Interestingly, rotating the png image to be square to the page (by only two tenths of a degree) causes the score not to be read...
So manually doing each is more than I think I wish to do. I need to have them read in correctly for the most part. FWIW I *am experienced with the lyrics OCR (tesseract) which is similarly brilliant. Almost always a flawless transaction. Except Audiveris missed the lyrics altogether...
Audiveris is another topic and admittedly experimental. Still have a long way to go in experimenting with that before wasting your time.
Thanks again.
It sounds to me as though you are trying to create an anacrusis or pickup measure.
There is an opportunity to do that in the score creation procedure, but if you have forgotten to do it you need to alter the actual time signature of the measure in quiestion.
Right click a blank part of the measure and choose measure properties from the context menu.
In the dialogue that opens adjust the actual time signature in the Measure Duration section to suit the number quarter notes the measure consists of. You said 3 quarter notes so adjust to 3/4 from 3/2
Click OK
JOb done :)
HTH
MIchael
In reply to It sounds to me as though you by ChurchOrganist
Also tick the 'irregular measure' box, to exclude it from the measure count.
In reply to It sounds to me as though you by ChurchOrganist
Brilliant! Thank you. Yes that is exactly so. And your solution works, thank you.
A new problem arises however, in that the three notes are about one notch to the right on the Lego strip analogy: the third quarter note now overlies the first quarter note in the second measure?
I can delete the measure and reenter the three notes of the first measure and all line up correctly, but cutting and pasting the first measure doesn't solve the problem, nor does cutting and pasting individual blocks.
Changing the Measure > Properties > Layout Stretch to a 1.90 brings it back in so the third note is at the right edge of the measure. Changing Measure > Properties > Duration > Actual repositions the three notes correctly, but of course then adds a rest, albeit now in the starting position...
I'm sure I'll work it all out in due course. Generally a brilliant system. Thanks again.
Andy
Imagine a very long, thin strip of Lego. Imagine sticking Lego bricks of varying lengths on top of this strip. The length of the brick corresponds to the length of the note. Where there are no bricks you have a rest. You can move the bricks but the others will not automatically flow in to fill the gaps. Some have requested a feature to do this and there are arguments for and against this in other threads.
When creating this piece you would have measures of 3/2 with a pickup measure of 3/4. You can change the "actual time" of a measure by right-clicking and selecting "Measure Properties". As mentioned, tick the "Irregular" box if you don't want it to count towards measure numbering (if you set it up as a pickup from the New Score dialogue this gets done automatically).
In reply to MuseScore is like Lego. by underquark
Once again brilliant! Give him a time signature and the author and he immediately knows the piece! Someone who *knows* his music.
Yes, it is Tallis' O nata lux. Thank you. I attach my version so you can see the Lego problem I cite.
Thanks to all.
Andy
In reply to MuseScore is like Lego. by underquark
>You can move the bricks but the others will not automatically flow in to fill the gaps. Some have requested a feature to do this and there are arguments for and against this in other threads.
Well that is indeed arguably desirable, since that's how other "word" processors work, but that is for later, this is for now. Thanks for the analogy.
It doesn't particularly matter too me which way it is, I just need to know the rules...
Drives me nuts when I'm singing the note as written with the tempo being given by the director and someone does something different. When I enquire they answer, "Oh, that's how *we* do it!"
Well, I can't read minds, so if they do it differently I need to know the rules...
:-)
Thanks again for the analogy (and the beautiful score! It always chokes me up. Hard to sing when you're choked :-)
Now back to studying the offset problem.
Cheers, Andy
Not sure if this is the actual piece that you were working on or not but I liked the sound of it so I filled the rest it in so that others can listen if they want.