change triplets to duplets, etc.
I have several measures of a hymn with eight notes on treble clef that I want paired with quarter notes on bass clef. Program is automatically giving me triplets. How can I change those to duplets, single notes, etc.? Is there a way to change all triplets to duplets in a score?
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No, you'd have to delete and re-enter
If the program is automatically giving you triplets then that is not normal behaviour and is either an error on your part or a bug in the program. It would be helpful if you attached your score so that others can investigate and help fix it if it is a bug.
In reply to If the program is… by underquark
Thanks so much - I just downloaded MuseScore on a Mac - have been using Windows - and put in some eighth, sixteenth, etc. with exactly the same result - automatically grouping - but not of quarter notes. In the attached sample, I only typed in the various notes without any attempts to put in beams.
Looking for some way to turn off this automatic grouping.
In reply to Thanks so much - I just… by universeron@ho…
No triplets involved, just the default beaming for 6/8 time sig.
You can change that, either individually via https://musescore.org/en/handbook/beams or generally (for this score and that time sig) via https://musescore.org/en/handbook/time-signatures#change-default-beaming
In reply to No triplets involved, just… by Jojo-Schmitz
O.K., I'm at the Windows computer with the actual score I'm working on. In measure 2, for example, I want duplets to match the quarter notes on stave below. I tried the right click and tried the start icon on note three This gave me the first duplet followed by an eighth - and then a triplet. I clicked what I thought would change the whole score but nothing happened.
In reply to O.K., I'm at the Windows… by universeron@ho…
Again: there are no triplets in that's score, nor are there duplets.
There are 8th notes beamed in groups of 3 or 2, entirely different thing, and a matter of breaking the beams to your likings by using the beams palette, or, if you want a consistent beaming in the score, change the default beaming for 6/8 time sig.
In reply to Again: there are no triplets… by Jojo-Schmitz
I am obviously very new to this - your patience appreciated! So, to use the correct terms, I want to "break the beams to my liking." I find the beam pallet and see a few beams. Since I want 2 eighth notes instead of three, I click on the "start" icon and click on the third eighth note - but then I have a single eight note..... so, precisely how do I "change the default beaming?" And, if I get the desired pairs of eighth notes, how do I make the sometimes desired three in a beam? I have spent hours being very close but I'm missing something.....
Thanks
In reply to I am obviously very new to… by universeron@ho…
What exactly do you want then? Which 8th notes should be beamed and which not?
Like the attached?
You'd need to use beam start on the even 8th and beam middle in the odd, and changing default beaming won't do here, as there is no consistent beaming
In reply to What exactly do you want… by Jojo-Schmitz
Depends on what is on the bass clef. For example, measure one is great - the three beamed eighth notes over a dotted quarter but the second measure is a disaster - I want 3 pairs of two eights on the treble clef. So, how do I get control of the beams?? I find where I have some choices but none of them seem to fit my needs.
In reply to Depends on what is on the… by universeron@ho…
So like my example, right?
![EXPERIMENTAL_SCORE_0.png]( "EXPERIMENTAL_SCORE_0.png")
If so, open that score, open the beams palette and select one 8th after the other to see what beaming I picked
In reply to Depends on what is on the… by universeron@ho…
First, I suggest you read the Handbook under "Beams" - it should answer most of these questions.
The short version is, MsueScore knowsd the correct beaming for 6/8 is to beam in two groups of three. If you wish to deliberately violate this standard - which can indeed occasionally be useful - you need to break the beam between the 2nd and 3rd eighth note as well as between the 4th and 5th, and you need to join the 3rd and 4th. So, first select the 3rd note, double click beam start, then the 5th note, beam start, then the 4th, beam middle.
FWIW, though, many editors would frown on the notation you are trying to create here, and would instead recommend sticking with the default rules, which would call for you not to use quarters in the bottom staff but to instead break that up as 3+3 as well. So, in measure to quarter, eighth tied to eighth, then two more eighths (with the last three of these eighths beamed, just as MuseScore does by default). The main time it would normally be advisable to actually notate as 2+2+2 would be if this is done consistently, like every measure, or maybe every other measure. Exceptions to every rule exist, to be sure, but anyhow, the rules are worth knowing and keeping in mind.
In reply to First, I suggest you read… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks so much! I now have the enviable position of being able to change the beams. But, more importantly, as a novice, it would be a fools errand to argue with a program created by folks who actually know the rules. I played it through matching the bass clef to treble clef rhythm and it improved the piece. Again, thank you to both of you.
In reply to Thanks so much! I now… by universeron@ho…
You're welcome! FYI, while the "rules" are universal, the opinions on when it is worth breaking them are more subjective. My personal opinion having looked over your piece is that the few places where the rhythm does logically go 2+2+2 are not enough to justify breaking the usual 3+3 notation, so I personally would use the rhythm with ties in the bottom staff and keep the beaming in the top staff. But I could easily imagine others disagreeing on this point, saying that the rhythm happens often and regularl;y enough to be worth making exceptions for.