Hairpin Without Playback

• Oct 30, 2018 - 03:58

Now, it's easy to plop a hairpin into a score and adjust, but is there any way to place a hairpin such that it has no playback consequences whatsoever? If you just leave the velocity change at 0 then it still picks up on the "next" dynamic and tries to appropriately cresc./decresc., causing issues, and simply throwing in a velocity change of 1 is still a velocity change that can add up when you have a lot of hairpins that you need to add. Plus stuff gets really strange with hairpins applying to specific voices (not currently a feature, but this would at least remove any weird playback consequences until it is) where one is cresc. while the other decresc., and it'd be easier to just disable playback of one and adjust note velocities manually.

In short, it'd be nice to have a little "play" checkbox on hairpins to disable them from actually messing with playback when there's weird hairpin situations.


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Since there is no play check box and 0 looks for the next dynamic, I would suggest you make the change to 1. There are few people who would perceive it, especially over several notes.

In reply to by LuuBluum

Since hairpins are not currently able to be applied to voices, the hair pin will always affect either the Staff, Part or System. If you put two dynamics in the same spot, there is probably a way that I don't know to determine which one MuseScore will choose, but I would make both of them use the same Velocity change - in this case 1.

In reply to by mike320

Right, but what if they're going in different directions, or if there's a lot of overlap- two hairpins for one voice over the span of a single hairpin in another?

I know I sound awfully picky right now, but it does come up where there's no real way to "fake" the hairpins all that well. For example, a measure out of Godowsky's Passacaglia:

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Sure, you could rig this up in some incredibly complicated fashion, where the hairpin on the inner voice is actually applying to the inner voice under the decrescendo rather than the one under the crescendo, but that seems awfully complex, and would be prone to misalignment.

In reply to by LuuBluum

There is generally a way to do almost anything you want in MuseScore, it's a matter of how much work you are willing to put into doing it. Since Playback is of secondary importance in MuseScore, my previous suggestions actually gave the results your asked about. You are not being picky you are clarifying what you want to do.

If your goal is to make it sound right in the two voices, then you will need to adjust the velocity for each note and do as I said with the hairpin settings (change = 1) to prevent them from causing unwanted changes.

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