tubular bells notation

• Apr 8, 2019 - 04:23

I was reading that the strike note is notated, though the dominant fundamental is an octave below. So, Msc must define the instruments pitch as an octave below with a regular treble clef and non-transposing. In order to write this for a non-Msc instrument like sfz Chimes, and without the benefit of definition while keeping it non-transposing, it must be written with an octave clef. But I was wondering how come? The only answer I could come up with is that the sound samples do not capture the dominance of the fundamental in either case.


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The notes are written as non-transposing on tubular bells the best I can tell. If the range is C4 to F5, C4 is middle C and F5 is at the top of the treble staff. The shapes of the tubes affect the overtones, but the fundamental is still in the treble range.

In reply to by mike320

What I was trying to say is that C Collins had the luxury of defining a regular treble clef even though the fundamental is obscured in the sample set. The dominant tone is clearly an octave below, which is also true with real bells, though the fundamental is apparent too. But when you come to a non-Msc file, you have to use an octave clef or the dominant tone is totally obscured.

edit:.....unless you redefine the clef within the xml file?

In reply to by ramblinj

I'm not the expert on this subject, but it sounds like the other programs are making a mistake. If I'm correct, then I would suggest a bug report (with a status of S5-suggestion) be filed explaining which programs are known to make this mistake and what needs to be done for proper display in MuseScore. You would need to attach sample musicxml (or xml) files with the mistake. It might be possible that during import, MuseScore could check if the MusicXML comes from one of those programs and make the appropriate adjustments.

In reply to by mike320

Thanks for the response Mike. I don't think its a bug; just a choice. Its hard to get c3 without going into the bass clef or changing the staff. In addition, there is a debate about fundamentals and dominant tones etc. BTW, its not another program. It is Sonatina 1.0 for Zerberus.

In reply to by ramblinj

I don't think its a bug

That's why I told you to make it a suggestion, which was previously called a feature request. If your goal is to import it so it's the same as MuseScore original scores, then the program will need to be changed to do this.

All tubular bell/chime notation I've seen puts the notes in the treble clef without transposition. I'm not a percussionist, so I might be missing something. I hope someone with expertise ( maybe @Daniel ) will get involved with this discussion.

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