3.0.5.5992 Multiple Trills Performance and Space
As with attached score, for bar 34 there are two trills (Capture 1): first one, it plays well; second one, it looks I have to play “hide and seek” with voice 2, but the space it takes Y>>X (Capture 2).
Can you help?
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| Nocturnes, Op.9 (Chopin, Frédéric) No.2 - Violin & Piano V3.mscz | 219.86 KB |
| Capture 1.JPG | 77.72 KB |
| Capture 2.JPG | 170.48 KB |
Comments
In voice 2, place a note (any length) where that second trill begins, with it having the same spot as the "upper" part of the trill (C6). Click the note, then uncheck the text box "play" in the Inspector. Make the note invisible, as well as any errant rests that showed up in the second voice (since you'll have to put in rests starting at the beginning of the measure in the second voice to "reach" that part of the measure). That should fix the playback and not interfere with the structure of the score whatsoever.
In reply to In voice 2, place a note … by LuuBluum
Can you show me on the score?
In reply to It fixes the playback and… by Xianyue賢越
The flute in measure 346 of https://musescore.com/user/6105546/scores/5571291 uses that. I also relocated the # from the invisible note to above the trill rather than adding another accidental to the measure.
In reply to The flute in measure 346 of… by mike320
Thanks mike320, that's a big score with nice formatting and playback sound and it helps.
This way the trill works though there is a tiny defect at start which can be muted by setting velocity=0, how do I understand this behaviour of Musescore to trill from A#5 to C6?
In reply to Thanks mike320, that's a big… by Xianyue賢越
It seems that even muted notes are shown in the piano roll editor. This makes sense because to hear them, all you have to do is check play. It is shown there so you can edit it, but keep in mind you won't hear it.
In reply to It seems that even muted… by mike320
how do I understand this behaviour of Musescore to trill from A#5 to C6?----- how do I understand this way of weird editing to simulate trill?
In reply to how do I understand this… by Xianyue賢越
There are two ways to make a trill from A# to C. First is to write it as a tremolo, the other is to use a B# (a sharp above the trill line would indicate this) since a trill from any A to any C is uncommon and I don't even know how to notate it except to possibly put a stemless note in parentheses after the base note showing it should go up to a C. The only way to get proper playback is using a B# using the invisible note method already discussed.
In reply to There are two ways to make a… by mike320
Thanks again to show me these ways of simulating trills, it solved the needs for now and one day, one day user would be able do it directly at the "Tr" front ;)
In reply to Thanks again to show me… by Xianyue賢越
I agree!
In reply to In voice 2, place a note … by LuuBluum
Thanks ispil for the hint, it simulates the trill and I have to disable a lot "auto placement"s to get the format right.