i would try to introduce a bit more variation especialy in the harp and string parts. I also dont think that the choir is really necessary, and in general i would use less instruments and give them more to do, othervise half of the orchestra has basicly nothing to do,
That is just my opinion, just keep writing, and eventually, maybe you will write something substancial.
By the way this is also my first orchestra piece, have not finished it yet, but anyways i am interested, what you think about it.
I do agree with you. Basically all the parts just keep repeating the same thing over and over. I was just trying to experiment with different sounds since I've never written anything like this. I plan on writing another orchestral piece that will build off of this one. I will definitely be making the parts much more interesting. This was kind of a test. I would love to hear your piece but I can't open the file. Could you perhaps send another file that would work?
It is strange strange that it does not work, because i checked it on my computer and it works no problem anyways I am sending it again, maybe now it will work. If not , maybe you can try importing the PDF, that i am also sending.
Well to be honest I prefer yours over Cells123's. Not that the other one isn't good, but yours is better even after considering the repetition. Keep writing! :)
Don't double click the file to open it, but use File → Open instead and it'll work.
Culprit is that special ā in the filename, which is sent through by the operating as a normal a, after which we can't find file named with a regular a.
I really like your experiment, your "first Orchestra Piece".
At first I thought, just like Cells123, that it could use more variation. But later I realized that this piece could be very well the background music of a scene in a movie. If you imagine that no actors speak in that scene, but that someone travels from one place to another, it's nearly perfect. The piece builds up in drama, which also fits very well with the right scene.
When I listen to the music I see someone leaving his country without really wanting to leave, probably because his life is in danger, stepping in a carriage, horses starting to pull the carriage, relatives left behind, waving him goodbye, all having tears in their eyes, him looking outside the carriage window, raindrops on the window, scenery passing by, the carriage passing over bridges, passing lakes, shortly stopping at a border checkpoint, going through medieval towns, through forests, etc. At the end, where only the piano and the cello play, he steps out of the carriage. He's safe.
I don't like the part of the organ. Use it for a different scene. The return of Dracula? :-D
But as you said, it's an experiment. I think it's a good experiment.
Cells123 is right that half of the orchestra has little to do at the start, but if this was really the background music of a scene in a movie ... they won't be complaining for being paid while having little to do.
Thanks! I've done a lot more experimenting with pieces since then. I am actually interested in like movie and video game music stuff. I'm hoping that someday I can get something going with my music. I do have to agree with y'all on the organ part now that I'm listening to it now though😂
Two years ago you could save 10 scores online rather than 5. There is now the option to merge accounts but some people still have more than one. A lot of the people who help on the forums have multiple accounts for various reasons as well, like checking that something works a certain way on a not pro account versus a pro account. I have multiple accounts for other reasons because of the projects I work on.
I don't mind if you have more than one account. But then again, other users can find it confusing if you're suddenly William or Fred or Joseph or Justin or worse ... Isabella. :-P :-D (Joking, but also a bit serious. ;-) )
This type of music fits The Long Dark (video game). If writing music for video games is your thing, maybe contact the devs? ;)
Agree with what others have said about the organ part, it feels a bit "too much" in my honest opinion. While repetitive, it really would make great music for video games (and especially the type I mentioned), I think.
I would only suggest that whenever you have a dominant chord you wrote it as an actual dominant chord.
So basically:
Every G♮change it to F 𝄪 (For the dominant seventh chord of G ♯ minor, which is D ♯ 7)
Every B♭change it to A ♯ (For the same as above)
Every C♮change it to B ♯ (For the dominant seventh chord of C ♯ minor, which is G ♯ 7)
This way everything makes sense harmonically, as every chord in functional harmony is built up by stacking thirds (with the exception of suspended chords and "add" chords [add4 and add2], as well as other sounds produced by extensions made by "ornamentation" (grace?) notes.
So:
D ♯ 7 = D ♯ F 𝄪 A ♯ C ♯
G ♯ 7 = G ♯ B ♯ D ♯ F ♯
And this works for every chord inversion.
From D ♯ to F 𝄪 there's a major third. ✔︎
From D ♯ to G♮there's a diminished fourth. ✖︎
Comments
i would try to introduce a bit more variation especialy in the harp and string parts. I also dont think that the choir is really necessary, and in general i would use less instruments and give them more to do, othervise half of the orchestra has basicly nothing to do,
That is just my opinion, just keep writing, and eventually, maybe you will write something substancial.
By the way this is also my first orchestra piece, have not finished it yet, but anyways i am interested, what you think about it.
In reply to i would try to introduce a… by Cells123
I do agree with you. Basically all the parts just keep repeating the same thing over and over. I was just trying to experiment with different sounds since I've never written anything like this. I plan on writing another orchestral piece that will build off of this one. I will definitely be making the parts much more interesting. This was kind of a test. I would love to hear your piece but I can't open the file. Could you perhaps send another file that would work?
In reply to I do agree with you… by Billy Shoulder
It is strange strange that it does not work, because i checked it on my computer and it works no problem anyways I am sending it again, maybe now it will work. If not , maybe you can try importing the PDF, that i am also sending.
In reply to It is strange strange that… by Cells123
Ok I got it. It sounds really nice. I love the string part at bar 6.
In reply to Ok I got it. It sounds… by Billy Shoulder
Well to be honest I prefer yours over Cells123's. Not that the other one isn't good, but yours is better even after considering the repetition. Keep writing! :)
In reply to It is strange strange that… by Cells123
Nice work too, you should finish it!
:)
In reply to I do agree with you… by Billy Shoulder
Don't double click the file to open it, but use File → Open instead and it'll work.
Culprit is that special ā in the filename, which is sent through by the operating as a normal a, after which we can't find file named with a regular a.
In reply to Don't double click the file… by jeetee
3.5 has that (Windows only) bug fixed, finally
In reply to Don't double click the file… by jeetee
Does it work now?
In reply to You can check out my… by Soumyajit Swain
What has that got to do with the topic at hand here?
I really like your experiment, your "first Orchestra Piece".
At first I thought, just like Cells123, that it could use more variation. But later I realized that this piece could be very well the background music of a scene in a movie. If you imagine that no actors speak in that scene, but that someone travels from one place to another, it's nearly perfect. The piece builds up in drama, which also fits very well with the right scene.
When I listen to the music I see someone leaving his country without really wanting to leave, probably because his life is in danger, stepping in a carriage, horses starting to pull the carriage, relatives left behind, waving him goodbye, all having tears in their eyes, him looking outside the carriage window, raindrops on the window, scenery passing by, the carriage passing over bridges, passing lakes, shortly stopping at a border checkpoint, going through medieval towns, through forests, etc. At the end, where only the piano and the cello play, he steps out of the carriage. He's safe.
I don't like the part of the organ. Use it for a different scene. The return of Dracula? :-D
But as you said, it's an experiment. I think it's a good experiment.
Cells123 is right that half of the orchestra has little to do at the start, but if this was really the background music of a scene in a movie ... they won't be complaining for being paid while having little to do.
Don't hesitate to experiment more.
In reply to I really like your… by barencor
Thanks! I've done a lot more experimenting with pieces since then. I am actually interested in like movie and video game music stuff. I'm hoping that someday I can get something going with my music. I do have to agree with y'all on the organ part now that I'm listening to it now though😂
In reply to Thanks! I've done a lot more… by wyattschroede
Oh also this is me. I just realized I'm on my other account.
In reply to Oh also this is me. I just… by wyattschroede
What can you do with multiple accounts that you can't do with a single account?
(Yes, I do know that I'm "off topic")
In reply to What can you do with… by yonah_ag
Two years ago you could save 10 scores online rather than 5. There is now the option to merge accounts but some people still have more than one. A lot of the people who help on the forums have multiple accounts for various reasons as well, like checking that something works a certain way on a not pro account versus a pro account. I have multiple accounts for other reasons because of the projects I work on.
In reply to What can you do with… by yonah_ag
I just had two accounts made a long time ago. There's not really a special reason for me. I just did.
In reply to I just had two accounts made… by wyattschroede
I don't mind if you have more than one account. But then again, other users can find it confusing if you're suddenly William or Fred or Joseph or Justin or worse ... Isabella. :-P :-D (Joking, but also a bit serious. ;-) )
This type of music fits The Long Dark (video game). If writing music for video games is your thing, maybe contact the devs? ;)
Agree with what others have said about the organ part, it feels a bit "too much" in my honest opinion. While repetitive, it really would make great music for video games (and especially the type I mentioned), I think.
In reply to This type of music fits The… by melcantspell
Thanks! Ya as I said I am looking to write some game and/or movie music someday in the future. Still have some work to do but getting there..
Nice work!
I would only suggest that whenever you have a dominant chord you wrote it as an actual dominant chord.
So basically:
Every G♮change it to F 𝄪 (For the dominant seventh chord of G ♯ minor, which is D ♯ 7)
Every B♭change it to A ♯ (For the same as above)
Every C♮change it to B ♯ (For the dominant seventh chord of C ♯ minor, which is G ♯ 7)
This way everything makes sense harmonically, as every chord in functional harmony is built up by stacking thirds (with the exception of suspended chords and "add" chords [add4 and add2], as well as other sounds produced by extensions made by "ornamentation" (grace?) notes.
So:
D ♯ 7 = D ♯ F 𝄪 A ♯ C ♯
G ♯ 7 = G ♯ B ♯ D ♯ F ♯
And this works for every chord inversion.
From D ♯ to F 𝄪 there's a major third. ✔︎
From D ♯ to G♮there's a diminished fourth. ✖︎
They sound the same but work differently.
It's AMAZING!!! I definitely see that in a movie. Well done and keep it up.