Trouble with a clef change
Hello there,
I'm new to this program, only been using it for about a month or two for work. I was told to recreate a piece for my boss in musescore, but I realized that at the end, there was a strange clef and key change surrounding an end repeat. I tried to mess around with it several times, and after contacting a few people from work and googling it several times, I'm still stuck.
Attached, I have an image of the end of the song. This is the last page, it doesn't continue after this. I was able to get a clef onto that last eighth note but not after it, and the key change won't work at all. So, I wanted to ask all of you if any of you know how to do this?
Thank you for your time,
Reuben
| Attachment | Size |
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| Hungarian Dance End Repeat.jpeg | 1.08 MB |
| Hungarian_Dance_No._5.mscz | 41.78 KB |
Comments
Those clef changes make no musical sense at all. I would leave them out.
In reply to Those clef changes make no… by SteveBlower
I agree that they don't make sense, the point where the repeat goes to have both of those instruments in the bass cleff, so on the second staff only I would insert a bass clef before the repeat. To do this, select the repeat barline, press z and use the bass clef from the symbols rather than the clefs in the master palette then move it to where it looks right using the inspector. You can't attach a clef from the clefs palette to a barline, this is why you must use the symbol.
The key changes doesn't make any sense.
In reply to I agree that they don't make… by mike320
...so on the second staff only I would insert a bass clef before the repeat.
Hmm... Are you sure?
The second staff is already in the bass clef (look back a measure from that end repeat), and remains in the bass clef upon playing the repeat. [Also, measures 31 - 34 were (previously) played in bass clef.]
On the other hand...
The first staff (presently in the tenor clef - look back a measure) returns to bass clef upon taking the repeat, and not the treble clef (as written).
In reply to *...so on the second staff… by Jm6stringer
I got confused, the first staff needs the clef.
I suspect from what I see that this is a poorly edited copy of this score and that somehow the musician is supposed to know that the repeat goes somewhere besides where we seen on the scanned page.
In reply to I got confused, the first… by mike320
Though the clefs do seem screwed up, I believe the repeat returns to the obvious place (it's a fairly famous piece). Also, I believe that's a courtesy key signature at the end of the page for a key change on the following page.
Those "screwy" clefs look like they may belong to that (courtesy) key signature - because the single sharp in that key signature is positioned (differently) on the 'F' line or space - as defined by each of those "screwy" clefs.
In reply to Though the clefs do seem… by Jm6stringer
Looking at a couple of versions from IMSLP, I think this is a transcription into an easier key rather than the original F# minor and F# major. There is also no repeat from the end of the score in the original. The key signature changing from G minor to G major at the repeat would be consistent with my theory and the repeat would go to a place in the score in G major. I suspect this is a transcription of a quartet of cellos due to the clefs. I don't think that #6 would have been transcribed to the key of G since it's original key signature is Db major. The transcription from F# to G is very logical, a transcription from Db to G isn't.