song midi file from musescore, played in piano marvel or on Windows Media Player has some silent notes
a song plays fine in musescore but exported MIDI file Greensleeves cds lrs ties.mid has a few notes that are silent when uploaded to and played in pianomarvel or played on the Windows Media Player . See Pdf at Greensleeves cds lrs ties.pdf
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With regard to MuseScore see: https://musescore.org/en/node/277424
In reply to With regard to MuseScore see… by Shoichi
Thanks Shoichi
I plan to try the procedure given in the link. This silent note problem occurs on single notes as well as a single note and a three-note chord. There's no particular pattern; it seems random. I did find that playing the exported midi file on the Windows Media Player shows the silent note problem appears to be with the file and not in Piano Marvel.
John
Had the same in mind as @Shoichi, to reset the velocity from "user" to "offset". Also, maybe it's more an issue of pianomarvel? Also the midi file differs to the pdf - with and without lyrics, different numbers of instruments?
In reply to Had the same in mind as … by kuwitt
Thanks Kuwit.
I thought this problem of silent notes was a pianomarvel problem, but when I played the midi file on the Windows Media Player the silent notes were there. To me this means the midi file is defective. This file came from File >Export of the file to my desktop from within MuseScore. Playing the song in MuseScore works fine. I plan to try the idea of Shoichi.
John
In reply to Thanks Kuwit. I thought this… by jdshaughnessy0…
Kuwit
I just thought about what you said about lyrics and other instruments. My song is strictly piano. Bass and Treble with lyrics and chord symbols (like a lead sheet). I'll try removing the lyrics and then saving as a new song. Then I'll export the midi file and find how it works. In fact, I might keep removing things like chord symbols and chords.
John
In reply to Thanks Kuwit. I thought this… by jdshaughnessy0…
If you want any hopes in anyone of use being able to figure out what went wrong (or is working right, but you're overlooking) you'd need to attach the actual score (mscz) and then mention which note in which measure we should be looking into.
Thanks for all the comments
I think I have solved my silent note problem.
Consider the problem-file Greensleeves cds lrs ties.mscz . Notice in measure 9, half note A3 , and notice that in the Am chord, in measure 9, there is the same note A3 AND this note is tied to A3 in the Am chord in measure 8. I think the ties from measure 8 to 9 keep ALL of these A3s in measure 9 silent and allows the A3 in the chord in measure 8 to continue to sound. Or, MuseScore doesn't allow a second A3 in measures 8 or 9 to sound, after the A3 in the chord has been played,.
In the fixed file Greensleeves Test 3S.mscz I found that if I replaced the A3 in the chord in measures 8 and 9 with A2, then the A3 in measure 9 sounded fine.
There were three more cases of silent notes in the file Greensleeves cds lrs ties.mscz in measure 15, quarter note A3 didn't sound; in measure 25, dotted half note A3 didn't sound; and in measure 31, quarter note A3 didn't sound. I fixed all these problem notes by replacing all the chord A3 notes with A2 notes. File Greensleeves Test 3S.mscz shows these changes as well as a few other fixed bugs.
John
In reply to Thanks for all the comments… by jdshaughnessy0…
I do hear the A3 in the top staff of Greensleeves cds lrs ties.mscz, so don't understand where your problem is?
Hmm, it is missing in the MIDI export though. But not in themp3 export
In reply to I do hear the A3 in the top… by Jojo-Schmitz
I don't know about the mp3. Piano Marvel uses the midi along with the xml and pdf. If you have the pdf and follow along there are four silent parts. If you want I can attach any of the files
In reply to I do hear the A3 in the top… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for the reply.
The problem is noticed when the file you mentioned is uploaded to and played on Piano Marvel, and it is also noticed if that MuseScore midi file is played on the Windows Media Player. The file you mentioned has the silent notes the other does not. When the file you mentioned is played in MuseScore I don't notice silent notes. So, I thought it could be a piano Marvel Problem but silent notes on the MuseScore-generated midi file made me think it cant be Piano Marvel.
When I changed the A3 to A3 in the chords, then the previously silent notes sounded fine
In reply to Thanks for the reply. The… by jdshaughnessy0…
The last sentence should be:
When I changed the A3 to A2 in the chords, then the previously silent notes sounded fine
In reply to The last sentence should be:… by jdshaughnessy0…
Or when you change that slur to a tie
In reply to Or when you change that slur… by Jojo-Schmitz
In both files they are all ties. They allow the tones to continue from the beginning of the first measure where the chord is played all the way to the end of the second measure without pressing the notes in the next measure. Without the ties the second chords are overpowering :)
In reply to In both files they are all… by jdshaughnessy0…
just that one tie to a slur, look (almost) the same, sounds still right and should fix the midi export