Spacing between lines

• Sep 11, 2021 - 01:41

When the score doesn't fill two full pages, the spacing between the lines on the second page is increased so that the score fills the page. I don't want that - is there a way to 'turn off' that feature? The attachment shows such a case. I would like to create a .pdf with the second page spaced like the first page - because I'd like to use that extra space below the score for something else.

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The way to make that look better is to simple add a page break so you have a similar number of systems on each page. With unbalanced pages like you have, it's going to look bad regardless of whether the extra space is - on top on the bottom, or split among the staves.

However, if you want to reserve space for something else (you mean, you're going to add it by hand), then best to simply include a placeholder for that in the score - either a spacer or a vertical frame. Then you can control exactly how much space you are reserving, and then still also decide how to balance the pages around that.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hi Mark - great suggestions and I would use them but the kind of simple answer I wanted was presented by the other responder.
[My idea is to use the pdf files in a songbook (created with something like Mixbook), and I think I could put verbiage or even images in the white space in the pdf using such an app.]

It can get dynamic depending on the context, though. For instance, a grand staff piano score might not work so well with vertical justification. Or, if there's a slight possibility of changing the layout in the future, doing a page-break at a particular spot when you might add another instrument in the future, or using system-breaks when you might change the page-scaling factor or the minimum-width of measures might be inappropriate. I suggest to get a feel for both page properties: "enabled" and "disabled" vertical justification and the little controls provided in the [Style→Page] settings, plus what Marc mentioned about making use of breaks and vertical frames especially for layout purposes. Much to learn, of course.

In reply to by worldwideweary

Generally speaking a grand staff does work well with vertical justification - better than without. Either way you get pages filled, but the allocation of extra space will be more carefully distributed so that some of it is within systems and some between. The only case it doesn't work so well - due to a bug, not any limitation in the concept itself - is the specific case of an unbalanced pages, where you for whatever reason have way fewer systems on one page than others. That shouldn't normally happen - professional editors usually go to some length to plan the system and page breaks to avoid unbalanced pages. But if for whatever you do do wish to have that kind of unbalance, then indeed, turning off the justification does work around the bug. For lead sheets, it's completely harmless. For piano music, it makes the other pages look worse but not too much worse. For virtually all other types of music, it's just plain bad.

So the downside of simply playing that option is that you'll immediately noticed that enabling it triggers the bug that only affects the extremely under-full page, and you'll get the complete wrong idea that that is in fact it sole purpose - to change what happens on those unbalanced pages. You won't even notice the improvements it made elsewhere - on the pages that were not so under-full, and will have a complete incorrect notion of what the option is even doing and hence won't really come to a good understanding f why it exists or the specific circumstances where it does and does not* make sense to disable it.

In reply to by worldwideweary

To be clear: it's still a great solution for lead sheets and other single-staff scores, it works around the bug with no ill effects in that case. Although even so, balancing the pages better is usually the better way to go, but not always desirable for various reasons.

It's scores of more than one staff where vertical justification actually provides benefit and there there is thus extra incentive to either balance the pages (always preferred) or use alternate methods (eg, spacers) to force the extra space to appear where you want.

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