Symbol in the score
Hello everyone!
Could you tell me what is the name of the symbol in the attached image and what is its practical purpose in a score for the conductor and the musicians?
Thank you very much!
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check Format > Style > System > System Divider > Left/Right
In reply to check Format > Style >… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hello Jojo!
Thank you very much!
I really didn't know this symbol or how to access it on Musescore.
Your teaching is ok...
Hug!
Talking about symbols... Does anyone know (a) what this symbol means - found in brass scores - and (b) how to get it in MuseScore?
In reply to Talking about symbols… by JackBlackBlueGreen
A bit hard to say, but it seems like maybe some sort of scoop, rendered in a font that does this using an angled line rather than a simple curve. See the curved scoop on the Arpeggios & Glissandi palette.
In reply to A bit hard to say, but it… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc. The font must be Sigler's jazz font... When I listen to the sample score (https://www.alfred.com/bernies-tune/p/00-40355/) it sounds more like a type of trill to me...
In reply to Thanks Marc. The font must… by JackBlackBlueGreen
A trill on a staccato note? That doesn't really make sense. Are you sure you're listening to the right note? or that this is the right arrangement?
In reply to A trill on a staccato note? … by Marc Sabatella
Just spent some more minutes trying to find an answer and I stumbles across this:
https://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&u…
According to that information (realiable?) it is a turn in jass band literature... (and can be found in afore mentioned font)
In reply to Just spent some more minutes… by JackBlackBlueGreen
Well, it can be interpreted as a turn when it appears after a note. Your image shows it before, bit I guess that's maybe just because you cropped out the note it's actually attached to?
In reply to Well, it can be interpreted… by Marc Sabatella
Sorry , posted wrong link above. Here the correct one:
https://www.alfred.com/bernies-tune/p/00-40355/
Please have a look at the sample score, the "trill" is in fact before the note - that is where my screenshot came from.
In reply to Sorry , posted wrong link… by JackBlackBlueGreen
Well, it's "between" two notes, so literally before after one and before the other. But logically it's connected to the first note. At least that's how turns normally work, and based on the context, that's very clearly what it is. They can either be attached to a single note, or placed between two notes but the pitches come from the note before, not the note after. In jazz, it's common to place the symbol closer to the second note, though.
Anyhow, closest thing in the SMuFL standard (and thus present in fonts included in standards-compliant notation software) is the "Brass flip", found in the "Brass techniques" section of the "Symbols" palette. Or if you like that particular shape for the symbol better, you can add it as an image.
In reply to Well, it's "between" two… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks again, Mark, for your explanations; I see what you mean - the first note is embellished and you land on the second one...
The "Brass flip" maybe comes closest indeed, however looks out of place if it comes from a different font than the one you are using.
Workaround: I made my own svg version and added it to the palette...
In reply to Thanks again, Mark, for your… by JackBlackBlueGreen
It anyone is interested, here is the svg/png that I added to my palette...
In reply to It anyone is interested,… by JackBlackBlueGreen
Helpful! Thank you.
Here is a link to "Big Band Arranging" which includes the "flip" symbol and many other tips. There are played examples.
https://www.evanrogersmusic.com/blog-contents/big-band-arranging/articu…
In reply to Here is a link to "Big Band… by underquark
Thanks!
In reply to Thanks! by JackBlackBlueGreen
Hi!
This first symbol of the left, after more than 25 years of working with music, is the first time I've seen it. Wouldn't that be a slur? That is, the notes must be played connected...
Hug!
In reply to Hi! This first symbol of the… by mjbartemusica1
No, it is a "turn". Not uncommon in jazz scores. Follow the link posted by underquark.
In reply to Here is a link to "Big Band… by underquark
MuseScore does have
<sym>brassFlip</sym>
in the master palette's symbols palette.(Edit: Marc mentioned that above already)
But only in Petaluma and Bravura (the latter being used as the fallback for all others, the former by far not looking as 'jazzy' as your's)