EZ way to get right number of systems per page
Running 3.6.2 . . . on my Mac. It would be great if I could simply ask musescore to fill each page of my orchestral score intelligently — it would choose spacing, as well as a reasonable number of system per page and bars per system so that it's readable and fills the page. I'd rather not have to deal with millimeters of this and that sort of spacing and those breaks that in my experience don't work reliably. Anything like that available? Or if I could say — please, musescore, here on page 3, give me 2 systems, the top with 5 bars and the bottom with 4. I'd love that.
Thanks.
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MuseScore by default does use a reasonable spacing, number of measures per system and system per page.
And system- and page breaks do work too and 100% reliable
In reply to MuseScore by default does… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hi Jojo. If you look at pages 14 and 15 you'll see what I mean. I don't see why they aren't placed on one page. I'm sure it has something to do with how I've set things up, but it's not clear to me how to proceed.
I do think having the option of choosing "add second system to this page" would be helpful.
Grazie,
Adam
In reply to Hi Jojo. If you look at… by agroden
Because there are explicit page breaks, so you "tampered" with the automatic layout andf got its revenche ;-)
In reply to Because there are explicit… by Jojo-Schmitz
And therefore I should . . . .
In reply to And therefore I should . . … by agroden
... remove them or replace with system breaks
In reply to ... remove them or replace… by Jojo-Schmitz
I deleted every break I could see. I still have lots of half-filled pages. My goal is to have each page filled appropriately, with adjustments to spacing made to accommodate that goal.
Thanks
In reply to I deleted every break I… by agroden
Go to: Format Menu: Style>Page:
Select: "Enable Vertical Justification on staves" radio button.
In reply to Go to: Format Menu: Style… by Ziya Mete Demircan
YES! Thank you Ziya. That was ridiculously simple and effective.
In reply to YES! Thank you Ziya. That… by agroden
That is all but one of the (new) default settings
In reply to I deleted every break I… by agroden
Is that any better? Almost everything back to defaults (everything but the staff space setting)
In reply to Is that any better? by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks Jojo. What I needed was the magic "Enable justification button."
In reply to Thanks Jojo. What I needed… by agroden
Also Ctrl+A, Ctrl-R, and Format > Style > Reset all to default (which includes the above setting)
In reply to Also Ctrl+A, Ctrl-R, and… by Jojo-Schmitz
Good to know.
In reply to Hi Jojo. If you look at… by agroden
Also see:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/breaks-and-spacers
In reply to Hi Jojo. If you look at… by agroden
I just had the same issue. This might help in the future:
Go to Format>Style>Page> and adjust "Factor for distance between systems," and then adjust Min. and Max. system distances, as well. Or adjusting "Min./Max. staff distance" can help at times.
Worked for me!
I sure am thankful for Forum and the pros and amateurs who help us all get things done on Musescore!!
Or if I could say — please, musescore, here on page 3, give me 2 systems, the top with 5 bars and the bottom with 4. I'd love that.
Ah... if only that were possible. Maybe connect a microphone and try saying it again. ;-)
If that doesn't work, then attaching your score will likely produce better results following the sage advice offered here.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/node/289899
In reply to Or if I could say — please,… by Jm6stringer
Posted yesterday about a fix for systems per page above.
To change measures per system, top or bottom on a page, can be adjusted by lengthen or shorten stretch of one or more measures. Highlight the measure(s) you want to change by "click + shift/click"and then "control+[" to shorten or "control+]" to lengthen. It's a wonderful tool to fill pages, to get the right number of pages for publication (4, 8, 12, etc.), or to get a page (or pages) full of notation to have consistent spacing of notes, length of measures, etc.
Also: Format>Stretch>Increase..., decrease..., reset... for larger sections of a score!
In reply to Posted yesterday about a fix… by Wesley Cavanaugh
Far easier than this is to use the Group measures or Keep measures together tool on the Layout palette. If you want exactly THESE five (or however many) measures on a system, select them and click this tool under Layout. It will force the measures onto the same system and adjust stretch automatically over the entire group of measures.
According to some posters, using the stretch tool can cause problems. (I've never had any problems with stretch, but that's what some people have said.) In addition, using this Group measures tool is the intended method for doing this.
In reply to Far easier than this is to… by TheHutch
The group measures tool currently is on the way back into MuseScore 3.7 Evolution BTW
In reply to The group measures tool… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for mentioning the group measures tool. Looked for the download of MuseScore 3.7 Evolution but couldn't find it.
And I'm crying "Uncle!!" after thinking I was so smart about getting a certain number of measures per page. I've attached a file for a score, 22 pages, with three systems on page 20 when I've gotten four on every other page. for a few hours I've tried everything mentioned on this thread: adjusting scaling, increase/decrease stretch, page and system breaks, changing factor for distance between systems and staff, min. & max. distance between systems and staffs, etc. God forbid I should consider disabling vertical justification of staves.
After looking at the score can you tell me what I'm missing or if there's anything else I could do to get four systems on page 20?
In reply to Thanks for mentioning the… by Wesley Cavanaugh
It is not yet in 3.7, but on the way, check the artifacts for https://github.com/Jojo-Schmitz/MuseScore/pull/519
In reply to Thanks for mentioning the… by Wesley Cavanaugh
I think the reason for the three systems is the fermata + accent + dynamic on the last note of page 20. They all take up space. You also have a page break in that measure which forces the next system onto page 21. But removing the page break has no effect.
If you manage to squeeze 4 systems onto page 20 you will end up with 3 systems on page 21. It's going to be either 3+4 or 4+3 as there are 7 systems to fit onto two pages and Musescore doesn't do half systems. One often (always?) has to compromise when laying out scores. Having just the three systems on that page is a compromise I could live with.
In reply to I think the reason for the… by SteveBlower
Thanks, SteveBlower! I'm a stickler for sets, consistency, symmetry and all the other synonyms you could come up with to describe an idiosyncrasy. The appearance of a score is as important to me as is the music it represents. I was considering compromising as you suggested but wasn't quite ready to do so. But I think I'll have to.
Thanks for you reply. You may have just changed my life (but maybe not)!
In reply to I think the reason for the… by SteveBlower
Thanks again SteveBlower for the insight into my three system dilemma. It has helped change aspects of the way I score music. I appreciate your help very much!!
In reply to Far easier than this is to… by TheHutch
Thanks! Your suggestion sounds much easier to keep numbers of measures in place than the manipulations with the stretch tool I've been doing in the past!