"a tempo" under the tempo pallette
Love the new addition of accel/rit/rall in MuseScore 4. Could we have an "a tempo" option under the tempo pallette that'd return it to the tempo listed before the rit/rall/accel? Thank you!
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The text is the easy part, the return to last tempo before... Is the hard and maybe impossible part
See https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/14445
It's not per se a hard or impossible thing to have, but it does require the introduction of a new element type; a tempo element that can be linked to another tempo element.
In reply to See https://github.com… by jeetee
It is not always certain which other tempo element should be linked to, just as it is not always certain in published scores which tempo should be returned to. One example would be rall. followed by molto rall. In that case does a tempo mean the player should return to the tempo before or after that first rall. Best guess would be before, but could that be handled automatically? Return to "the tempo before the last tempo change" would aim for the tempo after the rall, but before the molto rall.
Simplest implementation would be to allow (require?) the user to specify the target tempo. But that can be done already after adding a non-numeric tempo text (e.g. "allegro", rather than a BPM indication), bar the "a tempo" label, and that is just an edit away.
In reply to It is not always certain… by SteveBlower
I add the "a tempo" by copying the last tempo marking (or by just adding a new one) and change the text to "a tempo". The bpm can be set in the Properties panel.
In reply to I add the "a tempo" by… by Pedro Abreu 2
Would this still work if you change the original tempo that the "a tempo" is referring to?
In reply to Would this still work if you… by reschulz
No, you'd have to update it
In reply to See https://github.com… by jeetee
This could be achieved the same way rehearsal marks are implemented: by adding labels to tempo marks and referring to those labels:
![a tempo.png]( "a tempo.png")
In reply to This could be achieved the… by parkingb
That's not rehearsal marks but jump's.
Anyway, a solution is in the works
In reply to See https://github.com… by jeetee
And also see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/15563
I know what you mean, I don't know if this a bug or intentional but it is nice that it now plays them but the entire score seems to stay in the tempo of that particular direction for the entire score. I thought it might be if the lines specified that is where the rall was it would just return to the original tempo once the lines weren't there.
I would love for "a tempo" to be added to the Tempo pallette as well. Maybe what the developers can do is when we add the a tempo, another pop up will show for us to indicate the tempo that the "a tempo" will have moving forward to the piece? so the sheet music will show "a tempo" instead of the bpm.
In reply to I would love for "a tempo"… by rsbuslon1
+1!
In reply to +1! by miguelnavarromusica
As explained above, you can already add "a tempo" using the regular commands to add tempo text, then set the playback accordingly in Properties. But ways of supporting this more automatically are being investigated.
In reply to As explained above, you can… by Marc Sabatella
That's the turnaround I just used, but still it would be nice to have an automated A tempo text to insert. In a classical score, you don't have to "select" among several options after a rallentando : it's whether a tempo (the previoux one) or 1° tempo, the initial tempo of the piece or the part. If you want to get back to another tempo you already used, then you have to write it fully again, as it's currently feasible in Musescore 4. So, if we could have the option to select either previous or initial tempo when we chose to use A tempo, that would be great.
In reply to That's the turnaround I just… by gregoireigert
Yes, and that's exactly what's being investigated. Seems it is unlikely to make it into 4.1 but very likely for 4.2
In reply to Yes, and that's exactly what… by Marc Sabatella
👍👏👏👏
In reply to That's the turnaround I just… by gregoireigert
Tempo II would be nice to have as well. I know Vivaldi Summer uses both Tempo I and Tempo II marks.
In reply to Tempo II would be nice to… by Caters
I suggested this on the Issue thread on Github:
What about labelling the tempo marks (such as in the jumps) and referring to those labels in the "a tempo" to indicate which tempo to reuse ?
![a tempo2.jpg]( "a tempo2.jpg")
Jump To could be some standard labels such "primo", "previous" or be any Label given to a tempo mark anywhere in the score.