Creating parts - creates duplicate title boxes if title box already exists

r0bb

• Jan 14, 2023 - 22:15

Hello! I have looked for a solution to this and I think this might be either a bug or a feature request, I'm not sure... When creating a score with parts I often create a title box with the relevant info before creating the parts - however when I do this in MS4.0.1 then create parts, (see attached score), it creates a new title box at the top for the part name, then copies the title box I already had beneath it, rather than adding the part name into it and combining it into one title box (expected behavior, not sure what order those things happen in on the programming side but regardless I'd expect it all in one box at the end). If I hadn't created the title box I would have just the blank box with part name on the left and would need to write the title in separately to each part...

Now I either have to re-write the title information on every part or delete the part names and manually re-add them to the original title box for each part. Not a huge deal on this project but on bigger scores this would be a lot of pointless work and it feels like a bug to me, when parts creation used to just "work". Is anyone else encountering this or is there a new workflow that could help to avoid this?

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Tossin'_and_Turnin'-ms4.mscz	154.75 KB

Comments

the_mnbvcx

• Jan 16, 2023 - 10:41

Couldn't replicate that behaviour on a new score, created from scratch (see attached).
Time for the XML experts to chime in and find the differences, I guess....

I click on "new score", select the instruments, add title, composer, copyright, tempo etc and click "done"; opened your file and copy/pasted all the instruments.

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Tossin' and Turnin'_v2.mscz	155.69 KB

r0bb

• Jan 16, 2023 - 18:52

Well, I think from your description the difference is, I made the title box / added all the title information after the score's initial creation. Not in the score creation wizard but afterwards, directly on the score before making parts for each instrument.

the_mnbvcx

• Jan 16, 2023 - 19:36

How does your default template look? Mine always creates the title box, at least with default values...

When I delete that whole frame and insert a new vertical frame at bar 1 with title text etc I still cannot replicate the double boxes I see in your score; only the part name is missing on the parts.

A more detailed look into the mscx files shows that your excerpts put the part name into a new vertical frame (<VBox>...</VBox>) before the inherited title frame whereas mine simply adds the part name to the existing frame - I have no idea why, I happily leave that to the experts to explain....

your score

        <VBox>
          <height>10</height>
          <Text>
            <style>instrument_excerpt</style>
            <text>Alto Saxophone 1</text>
            </Text>
          </VBox>
        <VBox>
          <height>10</height>
          <linked>
            </linked>
          <Text>
            <linked>
              </linked>
            <style>title</style>
            <text>Tossin' and Turnin'</text>
            </Text>
          <Text>
            <linked>
              </linked>
            <style>composer</style>
            <text>written by Ritchie Adams and Malou Rene
originally recorded by Bobby Lewis</text>
            </Text>
          </VBox>

my blank score

        <VBox>
          <height>10</height>
          <linked>
            </linked>
          <Text>
            <linked>
              </linked>
            <style>title</style>
            <text>Untitled score</text>
            </Text>
          <Text>
            <linked>
              </linked>
            <style>subtitle</style>
            <text>Subtitle</text>
            </Text>
          <Text>
            <linked>
              </linked>
            <style>composer</style>
            <text>Composer / arranger</text>
            </Text>
          <Text>
            <style>instrument_excerpt</style>
            <text>Alto Saxophone 1</text>
            </Text>
          </VBox>

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