Muted Brass with Muse Sounds
With MS Basic, I've been able to apply mutes to trombones and trumpets and the playback changes. This doesn't seem to work with the recent Muse Sounds.
I've tried the two mute options ("mute" text and the "+" from the Pallettes menu) with Muse Sounds but the mutes don't work.
I've already checked the MuseScore 4 handbook, but I have not found anything useful with brass mutes.
Is this a feature still yet to be implemented? If so, please mention when?
Attached is an example file with the mute text option.
| Attachment | Size |
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| Mute and Open Trumpet For MS 4 Test May 28_2023.mscz | 17.47 KB |
Comments
Not currently supported for Muse Sounds, but should be at some point in the not-too-distant future.
In reply to Not currently supported for… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for the reply, and good to know.
I'm trying to get this to work as well, but when I play your sample in MS 4, I hear nothing for the first 2 bars. It sounds only when the unmuted trumpets come in. I see in the mixer that the earlier trumpets are set to use MS Basic. Is there some other setting I need to enable?
In reply to I'm trying to get this to… by meferris7
As Marc mentioned above, there are no mutes with Muse Sounds.
In reply to As Marc mentioned above,… by Karol - Composer
Understood, but it should work with the MS Basic sound font? Your first comment mentioned you had gotten this to work with MS Basic. This is what I'm asking about. How to apply that?
In reply to Understood, but it should… by meferris7
The mutes can be found palettes menu. Search for "mute" and apply the "+" that shows, then ensure that MS Basic is selected.
Hope this helps.
In reply to The mutes can be found… by Karol - Composer
Thanks. I find those settings, but when I apply, those instruments in the score just go silent, won't play back.
In reply to Thanks. I find those… by meferris7
In order for someone to understand and assist, please attach your score and give precise steps to reproduce the problem you are experiencing.
In reply to In order for someone to… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you for the offer of assistance! Attached is the score. At bars 21,22 and 25, I have muted trumpets. I changed these in the mixer to use MS Basic instead of Muse Sounds. When I do so, the instruments go silent. If I put them back to Muse Sounds, I can hear them, but they are not muted.
In reply to Thank you for the offer of… by meferris7
Works fine for me, at least the first two notes I see in the trumpet 1 part in bars 21-22. All I did was load your score, change to MS Basic for that instrument, select bar 21 on that staff, and hit play. The notes marked muted come out that way, the rest don't, and until bar 25 when there are muted notes again, etc. Is there some other note that isn't playing for you?
In reply to Works fine for me, at least… by Marc Sabatella
Odd. And this is how you selected MS Basic?
This isn't the best quality, but this short video shows 2 trumpets - The first set to use Muse Sounds, and it does not mute. The 2nd trumpet is set to use MS Basic, and it simply doesn't play at all.
https://youtu.be/-r-CIE1AEQQ
In reply to Odd. And this is how you… by meferris7
That video seems to be of a different score, containing only those few measures. Can you attach that score?
I guess it's possible your installation of MS Basic is corrupted somehow. Does it work for other instruments? Uninstall/reinstall might help. Also be sure you don't have a file by that name in your own Soudnfonts folder that is confusing MuseScore.
In reply to That video seems to be of a… by Marc Sabatella
Here is that score. I notice that in both my MS3 and MS4 installations, the soundfonts directory was empty. I thought this may be the issue, so I downloaded/installed some of the fonts you had posted several months back. {056} Trumpet now appears as a choice in the Mixer, and it plays—though if I select MS Basic, I still get silence.
In reply to Here is that score. I notice… by meferris7
This file plays very strangely - I'm hearing all sorts of notes that I don't see. Ah, now I see - you've set the metronome to use a trumept sound. That won't do :-). Once I turn that off, all plays as expected - top staff plays with Muse Sounds and ignores the mute but otherwise as sounds written, bottom staff plays with MS Baisc and plays muted where it should, open where it should.
It's correct that your soundfonts folder (under your personal Documents/MuseScore4 folder) would be empty by default - that's a place for you to download third party soundfonts into if you care to use them. "MS Basic" comes with MuseScore lives safely in MuseScore's internal sounffonts folder that you wouldn't even see unless you go out of your the browser through the internal intstallation files.
So unless you've overridden the default by installing a third part soudnfont with the same name, you should be hearing MuseScore internal MS Basic soundfont. If you ren't, perhapos somehow your installation got corrupted, which is why I suggested uninstall/reinstall. That's why I was wondeirng if it works for other instrumentrs. Like, say, create a brand new score for flute and piano, add a few random notes ith no special extra markings, and then use the mxier to set both to MS Basic. Do they play?
In reply to This file plays very… by Marc Sabatella
I uninstalled/re-installed and that seems to have fixed it. I really appreciate you sticking with me to solve this! Thanks!
In reply to Works fine for me, at least… by Marc Sabatella
Also, I wonder if my set up has something to do with it? I am running Mac OS 12.4, (Monterey_ Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 4.1.1-232071203, revision: e4d1ddf