I misspoke on the versions of MuS. I meant V 3.4 and 3.6 The download page implies that only V4. will not run on Win7. It says nothing about different versions of Win7 which is what my question is about.

I don't see what MS support has to do with the problem.

To repeat, MuS runs on one version of 7 but not the other.

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 3, 2023 - 07:56

Might be a matter of patches or service packs?

Whether Windows 7 is supported by Microsoft is indeed irrelevant to Mu3. It is not to Mu4 though, but that was apparently a misunderstanding.

jack@schmidling.com

• Aug 3, 2023 - 18:04

Roger, now I find on the download page the following:

Older and unsupported versions

    Windows 7 or higher
    macOS 10.7 or higher
    Other packages for all platforms (1.x, 2.x, 3.x - 3.2.3)

Might this imply that one of those platforms could be XP?

There about a dozen versions in that list but not a clue as to what they are for

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 3, 2023 - 18:42

XP is older than Win7, so no, Mu3 needs WIn7. same for Mu2, Mu1 surely will run on XP.

Bazza55

• Aug 4, 2023 - 13:34

Yes, it's hard to recall every such detail over the many years we've been enjoying MuseScore. That's why a written list of System Requirements (OS version, minimum RAM etc) would be better than relying on recollection.

Bazza55

• Aug 4, 2023 - 13:31

Yes, it's very confusing. I've looked and looked but nowhere can I find a list of System Requirements for the older versions of MuseScore. I've just explored this a bit further in my post under "Documentation".

msfp

• Aug 5, 2023 - 14:06

updated Installation page.
feel free to travel back in time and add more info
https://web.archive.org/web/20221208023208/https://musescore.org/en/dow…

edit https://musescore.org/download page requires admin rights

Bazza55

• Aug 6, 2023 - 04:02

Thanks for posting these links but neither of them in any way addresses my enquiry.

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 5, 2023 - 14:28

and https://web.archive.org/web/20150206043419/http://musescore.org/en/down… for 1.x, esp. interesting for Mac

Bazza55

• Aug 6, 2023 - 04:06

Thanks for this reply. It provides the sort of information I am suggesting but it only does so for MuseScore 1.x
What I'm suggesting is a list showing these system requirements for each version of MuseScore. The whole list in one page, not having to seek old pages (in archives) which might or might not have information set out simply and plainly. Keeping old hardware alive is a great way to reduce e-Waste, this means using older OS versions, so it's good to provide the sort of info I'm seeking. Thanks.

bobjp

• Aug 6, 2023 - 04:24

The problem with W7 is that it is a great looking OS. And that requires a lot of resources to operate. Resources that would be better used in actually making the computer run better. Older hardware is less efficient power-wise. It is slow and can't run newer programs. Not to mention safety.
I have hardware that was made to run XP. XP was scandalous when it came out because you needed 128MB of ram to run it. And if you wanted to do music production, you needed a 2GB external hard drive.

Bazza55

• Aug 6, 2023 - 05:28

Hi bobjp, you've made some good points but a discussion of the relative merits of different OSs and their versions goes a long way beyond jschmidling's enquiry about compatibility of different versions of MuseScore with different versions of OSs.

bobjp

• Aug 6, 2023 - 15:31

Of course if someone is running XP, they need to know what version of MuseScore they need. My point (also mentioned by Jojo) is that there is no advantage to using unsupported versions. Unless you don't have a choice. But Microsoft doesn't update and protect them. Protection wasn't all that great in those days, anyway.

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 6, 2023 - 15:35

Well, as Win XP and Win 7 are are out of support by Microsoft and as such CONSIDERED DANGAROUS TO USE, esp. when connected to the internet, nobody shpould be uing those outdated OSes.
No reason not so use 1.3 on Windows 10 or 11 though...

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 6, 2023 - 06:44

For Windows is is quite simple:
Win XP or later for 1.x
Win 7 or later for 2.x and 3.x
Win 10 or later for 4.x

jack@schmidling.com

• Aug 8, 2023 - 19:28

I now have chipped that in stone but doesn't quite answer my question. I now have 1.x running in XP and a 2.x running in Win 7 Home but still can't get 3.x running in anything but Win7 Pro.

So the basic question is why don't both versions of Win7 run 3.x?

The reason all this matters is that the laptop at my LazyBoy must run XP for reasons I won't go into but it is my preferred location for diddling with notation.

The laptop under my TV runs Win7 home and I like to use this for playing and practicing with.

In the studio is the Win7 Pro machine where I practice seriously.

I could live with this it weren't for the fact that the files are not even compatible between the different MS versions.

For what it's worth, Noteworthy runs in all my computers but MS has features that I now can't live without.

Jack

bobjp

• Aug 8, 2023 - 21:10

So why not run 1.x on all your computers?

msfp

• Aug 8, 2023 - 22:06

@Jack
https://musescore.org/en/node/308200#comment-1014688
install Windows 7 SP1 and Microsoft Visual C++ 2015.

HildeK

• Aug 9, 2023 - 07:19

I think, Visual C++ is not important, but SP1 probably.
I have/had several computers with Win 7 (Home, Pro N) and MuS 3.6.2 is/was working.

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 9, 2023 - 07:31

But the Visual C++ Runtime is

jack@schmidling.com

• Aug 10, 2023 - 01:49

That's a possibility but I was hoping I could take advantage of the advanced features when playing files on the Win7 Pro but there seems to be some compatibility issues.

I will try this for awhile to see if I can live with it. Now to learn how to use it.

Basic question which I have not seen any ref to is: why do I get two files side by side or stacked when I load a file? If I delete one, they both go... what is this for?

Jack

jack@schmidling.com

• Aug 10, 2023 - 01:51

This was in response to why not use V1 on all?