MuseScore 4.2.1 'Staff/Part' dialogue not available
Hi all
I'm looking to change the properties of a few staves in order to write out some rhythm exercises for my piano students. I've been instructed that right clicking an empty staff will bring up an option for 'staff/part properties', which would allow me to reduce barlines within one staff to just 1, instead of 5.
Currently, the only option I get greeted with is 'stave/part properties', which DOES let me change the barlines as I'd like, but applies that change to the entire score. I've included a screenshot of this, along with the relevant MuseScore handbook entry which tells me this is possible. I've tried going about it a few different ways with changing instruments, terminating parts of the score, and a few other things. But sadly no dice.
Is this feature possible? Everything I'm reading is telling me it should be.
Relevant MuseScore documentation:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/staffpart-properties
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Comments
...to reduce barlines within one staff to just 1, instead of 5.
You can select the 4 barlines you don't wish to see and press V to make them invisible.
They will be colored gray, but in the Properties panel you can click 'Invisible' and those gray barlines will not display at all.
Alternatively, you can use menu item: Tools > Measures > Join selected measures to combine adjacent measures - which will eliminate the barlines completely.
In reply to ...to reduce barlines within… by Jm6stringer
Another solution: Add a Staff Change from the Layout palette at the measure where you want to change to a single line stave. You can set the number of lines in the properties panel and you can also change the offset so that the single line is level with any of the lines of the 5 line section.
See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/staff-type-change
In reply to Another solution: Add a… by SteveBlower
Steve you're a gem, this works as well as I could hope. I still don't know where the 'staff/part' dialogue has got to though. It would be very helpful to have it! Especially to selectively hide the bass clef rather than just 'making it invisible' which changes the formatting. Either way, problem solved, no idea where that Staff Change function has been hiding all my life...
In reply to Steve you're a gem, this… by SolomonGilbert
To see the staff/part properties menu you need to right click on an empty space in the stave. You should see this
![Menu2.png]( "Menu2.png")
If you click on a measure rest in an otherwise empty bar for example you will get this menu instead
![Menu1.png]( "Menu1.png")
Note that I am using a UK localisation. In the US localisation you will see "measure" instead of "bar".
In reply to To see the staff/part… by SteveBlower
Don't worry, I'm also from the UK :)
I'm getting the same results as you are on that options menu. The problem here is the option coming up for us both is "Stave/Part properties..." not "Staff/Part properties..." with the difference being Stave/Part properties are applied throughout the entirety of the score, whereas it's implied in the documentation linked above (https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/staffpart-properties) that changes made within a "Staff/Part" dialogue are only applied to the selected staff/staves.
The documentation linked above outright says "The Staff / Part Properties dialog allows you to change display properties of one Staff and the properties of the Musescore Instrument it belongs to". If you can get the "Stave/Part properties..." option to ONLY change one Staff, I'd be very impressed. So far, I have been unable to locate this option when right clicking anything!
In reply to Don't worry, I'm also from… by SolomonGilbert
Stave/staff another feature of US/UK localisation. My Pocket Oxford Dictionary says "staff (pl. ~s, &arch. & mus. staves)" Which I think means that here we say (or should say) one staff, two staffs unless we are archaic or talking about music in which case we say one staff, two staves. But in the US I think they say one stave, two staves.
I tend to use whichever of staff or stave comes to mind first. The documentation is supposed to be written in US English with UK English usage included in the glossary https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/glossary But there it says staff/staffs with another entry (stave/staves) marked "BE" for British English. The handbook is open source, so If it troubles you much you can edit the translation.
In reply to Don't worry, I'm also from… by SolomonGilbert
Just to add something....one staff in MuseScore means one staff starting at the first measure and ending at the end of the score/part. One staff is not the same as one system.....one system would be a number of measure that fit from left to right on a page.
See: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/page-layout-concepts
Which contains a bit more detail around the names being used.
Using the Staff type change, you can change the "format" of the staff at any measure. For instance, add 1 in measure and set it that you don't want the barlines to appear (using the properties panel). Then add one in measure 5 and set it to display the barlines again.
In reply to Another solution: Add a… by SteveBlower
@SteveBlower... You wrote:
Another solution: Add a Staff Change from the Layout palette at the measure where you want to change to a single line stave.
Okay, so your solution is for 1 staff (or stave) line.
The OP wrote:
...allow me to reduce barlines within one staff to just 1,
My solution is for 1 barline.
There is a difference, yes?
In reply to @SteveBlower... You wrote:… by Jm6stringer
Yes! Sincere apologies, I absolutely meant staff line. I've been writing a lot of music terms at the moment and my brain got all mushy. Definitely meant staff line, I'm so sorry!!
In reply to Yes! Sincere apologies, I… by SolomonGilbert
Thanks for the clarification.
![Properties.png]( "Properties.png")
Your screenshot of 'stave/part properties'...
...shows both, so I took you literally.
In any event, and as you have discovered, changes made there apply to the entire score.
In reply to @SteveBlower... You wrote:… by Jm6stringer
"There is a difference, yes?"
Yes, but with our British mind meld we telepathed the intended meaning.
In reply to "There is a difference, yes?… by SteveBlower
So why bother posting at all? :-)
In reply to So why bother posting at all… by Jm6stringer
So that lesser mortals can benefit from our superior British knowhow.
In reply to So that lesser mortals can… by SteveBlower
Okay, but please do as I do...
...when you write a post, at least use correct terminology here so that the non-telepathic can also understand.
It works for me. :-)
In reply to So that lesser mortals can… by SteveBlower
Shhh don't tell them! It was very nice chatting to you through the ether. I can't believe what Princess Anne said through the airwaves!!! Scandalous.