Question about "senza replica"

• Mar 22, 2024 - 18:36

I suppose this is more a music question than a Muse Score question, but ...

I have a piece that begins with the notation "La prima parte senza replica". Unless I'm mistaken this means "The first part without repeats".
Ordinarily, I would interpret that as play through the entire piece without performing the repeats, go back to the beginning ((DC* or DS, as the case might be), then play through the entire piece (or to a Fine or Coda), including repeats the second time. In other words, the opposite of modern practice, which would be to play the repeats on the first time through and not on the second time.
However, there's no DC or DS; there's no Fine or Coda. The pattern of the piece looks like the screenshot I've included.

Can someone tell me what the "La prima parte senza replica" means in this context?

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• Apr 3, 2024 - 18:27

It may have more to do with how, and when, to play this movement within the context of the entire piece. As near as I can tell, it was not uncommon to repeat various movements. In or out of order. Or not at all. Beethoven used this instruction to tell the performer how to play this movement in just such a case. Hinted at here:https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:A_Dictionary_of_Music_and_Musicians….
This seems like more of a question for Classical muse expert.

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• Apr 3, 2024 - 23:18

Thanks, bobjp! That link seems to identify the reason for the inclusion ... sort of ...

REPEAT, REPETIZIONE, REPLICA (Ger. Wiederholung; Fr. Répétition, which also means 'rehearsal'). In the so-called sonata-form, there are certain sections which are repeated, and are either written out in full twice over, or are written only once, with the sign at the end, which shows that the music is to be repeated either from the beginning or from the previous occurrence of the sign. The sections which, according to the strict rule, are repeated, are the first section of the first movement, both sections of the minuet or scherzo at their first appearance, and both sections of the trio, after which the minuet or scherzo is gone once straight through without repeats. The last half of the first movement, and the first, or even both, of the sections in the last movement, may be repeated; see for instance Beethoven's Sonatas Op. 2, No. 2; Op. 10, No. 2; Op. 78; Schubert's Symphony No. 9. Also, where there is an air and variations, both sections of the air and of all the variations, should, strictly speaking, be repeated. Although it is a regular custom not to play the minuet or scherzo, after the trio, with repeats, Beethoven thinks fit to draw attention to the fact that it is to be played straight through, by putting after the trio the words 'Da Capo senza repetizione,' or 'senza replica,' in one or two instances, as in Op. 10, No. 3, where moreover the trio is not divided into two sections, and is not repeated; in Op. 27, No. 2, where the Allegretto is marked 'La prima parte senza repetizione' (the first part without repeat). In his 4th and 7th Symphonies he has given the trio twice over each time with full repeats.

Thing is, the piece I found this on is the first section of the second movement (the "Andante") of the Piano Sonata No. 10 (op. 14, no. 2) which is not included in the list above as normally repeated.

I agree: this is definitely more a classical music question than a MuseScore question. I just hoped that someone would know the answer ... and you did :-)

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