Ctrl+Up/Down Inoperable

• Jan 5, 2025 - 18:41

Cannot use Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down to octave pitch shift after updating to 4.4.4 with latest revision. I've tried resetting to default, and also redefining with factory default settings, to no avail. I've reviewed forums, FAQ's, and even messaged MuseScore Support about a week ago, also with no response.

OS: Windows 11 Version 2009 or later, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore Studio version (64-bit): 4.4.4-243461245, revision: 2232670

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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I can't guarantee that this will work, but it's worth trying:

  1. Open the Shortcuts editor with Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts
  2. Search for "an octave", which should show you two shortcuts:
    Move pitch down an octave and Move pitch up an octave
  3. Select each shortcut in turn and press the Clear button
  4. Select each shortcut in turn and press the Define button to add back:
    Ctrl+Down and Ctrl+Up

In reply to by DanielR

Daniel R and bobjp...

Thanks, guys, but that's exactly what I did (about 3 or 4 times) before I posted. That's what I meant when I said 'reset and redefined'. I even closed MuseScore and reopened to see if the changes would take effect.

As another option, I'm thinking of re-downloading the latest revision and re-installing.

Thanks SO much for your suggestions!!
Semper Fi,
Bill

In reply to by bobjp

Thanks, bobjp...I agree about the reinstall probability, but wanted to cover as many options as possible. Based on your suggestion, I tried a 'Revert to Factory Settings' (couldn't find 'Reset') and that didn't work. Did a Windows repair, which also didn't work.

I tried several of my older charts, and the Ctrl+arrow doesn't work on them, either. I'm wondering if the glitch may be in my keyboard (the Ctrl key). I unplugged then reconnected the USB from the keyboard, which did nothing. I'm now going to try to switch keyboards to see if that remedies the situation.

I'll keep you guys updated for future troubleshooting you might experience.

In reply to by Smokehouse

Works fine for me. The best way for a reinstall to work would be this:
Save your score folder and any other additions to a usb drive.
Uninstall MU4.
Run a search of your hard drive for MuseScore4
Review the list and delete everything, unless you see something you still want.
If you have a registry cleaner, run that.

A normal uninstall doesn't delete everything. In some cases it is assumed you are going to reinstall. So some settings are retained so you don't have to start completely over. But in this case we do want to start over.
Even so, who knows if it will work.

Did using a different keyboard work?

In reply to by Smokehouse

Just a troubleshooting idea - since you’re using Windows, what happens when you open a large document in Word (or whatever program you have like that) and press CTRL-END. I believe this is the key combination to go to end of file. In other words, does the CTRL key work in other programs?

Another troubleshooting idea - in MuseScore, does CTRL work for any other command? For instance, click on a whole rest, then type CTRL-3 (add triplet)

In reply to by bobjp

@bobjp
The reason I laid out the steps to Clear before Define is that I came across a case in an earlier version of MuseScore Studio which required a Clear action.

In that case, the shortcut was apparently "still there" - but was not working. It needed the brute force approach of a Clear before the new Define had any effect!

Tried all manner of possible corrections (from both bobjp and DanielR), including changing keyboards, but none work.

Bobjp, I have a very effective uninstall program (Revo Uninstaller) that's more aggressive and thorough than the Windows 11 uninstall program), so I'll try that and reinstall MS 4.4.4 to see if the glitch remained in a residual file left behind when I reinstalled.

NEW UPDATE: I've kept MuseScore 3 on my PC (I've always preferred that version to write my charts until I got used to ver. 4), and the issue doesn't change: the Ctrl+arrow still has no effect. However, I just opened up my laptop with the MuseScore 4.4.4 on it and the Ctrl+arrow function works like it should! Don't know how to interpret that fact, though, without more thought.

In reply to by Smokehouse

Re-installing and resetting MuseScore doesn't work -> not a MuseSCore issue
Changing the physical keyboard doesn't work -> The keyboard is OK
It works on a different computer -> The problem computer either has the wrong keyboard setup or the behaviour of the [Ctrl] key has been altered from default. This is not a MuseScore problem so please Google about how to change settings for your operating system.

In reply to by underquark

Thanks for the troubleshooting options. I checked keyboard setup and it was set to the correct setup (US-qwerty). However, I added other regions and keyboard setups and tried them all. None correct the problem, so I switched back to US-qwerty. I even did most of the changes and restarted the computer just in case each change required a restart (notwithstanding that none of the guidance indicated a restart was required).

In reply to by Smokehouse

Speaking of the usb cable for the keyboard, I always turn off power management for usb inputs. That's a long shot, but nothing else has worked. About all that is left is an OS reset. I just had to do that because windows kept crashing.

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