Pizza change to, later in score
chromebook/linux. I5, 8gig
In 4.4.4, is there some new way needed to change to pizz when using 'pizz' from text menu? Had no problem in 4.3. Does not do anything.
I may know, but just wondering.
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I must not understand your question. In the attached score (made in 4.4.4), I simply added notes in the violin part, clicked one note and clicked the pizz. tool from the Text palette. Then I clicked another note and clicked the arco tool from the same palette. Both pizz. and arco worked immediately. Can you clarify your problem?
20250325 001900 - pizz arco.mscz
In reply to I must not understand your… by TheHutch
Yes I can!
What you said did not work for me! No pizz! Sorry if I was unclear.
Two questions for you. Are you working in Chromebook with linux? Were you able to select violin section or fast violins or maybe even slow violins?
In reply to Yes I can! What you said did… by R. L. F.
It doesn't have anything to do with your choice of instrument. If you do not see pizz. and arco in the Text palette, try the More button (yellow highlight) in that palette. You should see something like this:
Click on a button (for example, the pizz. or arco buttons, highlighted green) to select it and you'll get a button at the top to Add to Text (or whichever other palette you happen to be looking at). Click that button and now the button is on the main palette and available to be used in your score.
I do see Violins (section) available as a choice in my list of Instruments. I've never seen either "Fast" or "Slow violins". If you have them, I assume that you have downloaded instruments from MuseHub. *shrug* But it really has nothing to do with instruments. You can even add pizz. and arco to instruments where it doesn't mean anything: like trombone. :-) You just have to get it on the palette.
In reply to It doesn't have anything to… by TheHutch
Buttons were there. I eliminated musehub shortly after downloading it. My system did not seem to care for it. In the past I have had violins section, but this time it was not in the window. I think this might be the problem. Fast violin, etc others were my only choice for sections. Yes you can use pizz on trombone but....does it
sound? :)
In reply to Buttons were there. I… by R. L. F.
"Violins fast" isn't an instrument, it is a sound within the "MS Basic" soundfont. You select sounds in the Mixer. There is an instrument is just called "Violins (section)" - you can select that when creating your score, or change an existing instrument from whatever it is currently using the "Replace instrument" button in the Layout panel (formerly called Instruments) in the left sidebar. So, click the setting button next to the instrument in question within the Layout panel and make sure it says it is set to "Violins (section)", and if not, change it to that.
In reply to "Violins fast" isn't an… by Marc Sabatella
I used mixer to chose sounds. Fast was/is my only option on the list for a section. I will try your suggestions when I have a program to work in. I am holding till you respond to my follow ups to make sure you do not want anything else before I close everything down and start over. Not a good day.
Thanks again for all the help!
In reply to I used mixer to chose sounds… by R. L. F.
That may be the problem. Don't use the mixer to choose the instrument.
Instead, in the score (not the mixer!) right-click on an early measure. (Don't right-click on a note/rest; simply on blank space within the measure.) From the context menu that appears, click on Staff/Part Properties .... In the second section of the dialog (headed Part properties), what is the "Instrument" listed? The first field under the section header?
I'm expecting it to be either "Violin" or "Violins (section)". If it's not, change it to one or the other by clicking the Replace Instrument button. Then, under Family, click on "Strings - Bowed" and under Instruments, click on "Violin", then on OK. Then on Apply and OK.
Now, still in the score, go to the upper left and click on Palettes. In the Palettes panel, do you have an entry for Text? If not, click on Add Palettes near the top of the panel, find Text in the list and click the large plus sign to the right of it. Once you've done that, look again in the Palettes panel: now you should have the entry for **Text.
Click the small triangle to the left of the word "Text" so that it "expands" the Text palette. Take a screenshot of this palette. Then click the More button at the bottom and take a screenshot of this list too. Attach them here.
In reply to That may be the problem. Don… by TheHutch
I have the pallettes and pizz and arco. There is no problem there.
I have to ask. How long has the mixer been there? In the last year I will casually say I have done 25-30 movements. And let's say half that many more the previous year. Probably more, but that requires thinking. Various instruments, sizes, lengths, but one thing in common. I used the mixer to choose the instrument 'sounds'. So, why this way now? I have even used pizz multiple times, successfully!
What has changed now that I was using 4.4.4? Afraid I still do not believe in bizarre coincidences such as this, though I probably should when it is involving MS! :)
Also, why suddenly does my list of strings in the drop down menu not scroll completely top to bottom. I do think the string(s) sections instruments might still be there, but I can not get to then. And why does pizz not want to function. I even changed the instruments to solo violin, viola, etc. Still did not work. Something has changed and I do not understand why I appear to be the only one. But again, that seems to be normal with my experiences in MS!
I will try your suggestions for 'replace instrument' and see if that helps. First I need to actually have a version I can work with. Another one of those 'my only problems'! At my age I would prefer a little(lot) more normalcy!
Thanks for the comments and suggestions
In reply to I have the pallettes and… by R. L. F.
The mixer has been the way to choose sounds since before MuseScore 1. It has never been the way to choose instruments - that has always been the "add instrument" dialog. Or, if you already added a different instrument and now you've changed your mind and wish to select a different instrument, it's the very similar "replace instrument" dialog. The only thing that changed since 4.4.4 in that respect is that one of the ways of accessing these dialog was the Instruments panel, but that has been renamed Layout. No change of any kind to how this works though - just to the label of the panel that you can use to either add or replace instruments.
To be clear: to select the instrument - the violiin section - you use the instruments dialogs. But to select the sound those violins make - fast, slow, MS Basic, Muse Sounds, some other library - you use the mixer. This is exactly as it has always been in every release of MuseScore that has ever existed.
In reply to The mixer has been the way… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks
That is exactly how I understood. And how I have been doing it for years! I am using (attempting)MS Basic sounds, just as I have done in the past.(musehub seemed to be overwhelming my system, fan ran all the time) So, if nothing has changed then why does pizz suddenly not function. I can not seem to scroll the hole drop down list, can not find string sections on the list anymore. Something must have changed. And on my side the only thing different from a month or two ago is I was using 4.4.4.
Now pizz shows on the score and that is always the most important. It would definitely be useful for the sounds to work, but not totally devastating. (such as our other issue with 4.5.1)
I will try the other suggestions given by you and thehutch. But I first need a version to work on!
In reply to Thanks That is exactly how I… by R. L. F.
I'm completely confused. I had understood you to say that you could not add the pizz. and arco markings to your score. That's how you get a particular part of the score to be played pizzicato or not. When I add a pizz. marking to an instrument where that is meaningful, that instrument plays pizzicato. I don't have to do anything with the mixer.
The example score I attached on my first post to this thread (datestamp Mar 25, 2025 - 04:22) has the pizz. and arco markings on a violin and, when I play that score, the violin plays pizzicato over the marked measures ... even though I have made no change to the mixer whatever. Is that not the case for you???
In reply to I'm completely confused. I… by TheHutch
I guess I should have said 'a new way to add pizz sound when adding pizz markings'. Hope that is somewhat better. The markings are there , but no pizz sounds. Just continued arco. If I can find the posts again I will try what you and Mark have suggested....when I actually have a version of MS to work in.
The title triggers me. Changing a Calzone to a Quattro Staggione?
(And yes, I'm hungry 😉)
In reply to The title triggers me… by Jojo-Schmitz
I've been thinking that for days! LOL 'sprolly why I opened the thread in the first place. :-D
In reply to I've been thinking that for… by TheHutch
You didn't open it...
In reply to You didn't open it... by Jojo-Schmitz
"Opened" as in to view it, rather than "opened" as in starting it.
In reply to "Opened" as in to view it,… by TheHutch
I see