.WAV file sound is bad - version 0.9.6
Hello!
First let me say that I love your software. It's very easy to use, and I can get the sounds in my head onto paper and hear them very quickly! Thank you for a great application.
My question is about .WAV files. When I save my song as a .WAV and play it back (with Media Player or on an iPod), the sounds is terrible. It's not even close to what I hear when I play the song from your application. It's as if all the settings (example: volume for each instrument) are somehow lost, and all that's coming through is the raw sound.
Is this normal for a .WAV file, or am I doing something wrong when saving the file?
Thanks in advance,
-kevin-
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The settings you do in Display->Mixer are used when you export to WAV. Try to reduce the bolume of one track to 0, you'll see.
What do you mean by "sounds terrible" ?
In reply to The settings you do in by [DELETED] 5
By terrible I mean: The volume of each instrument is way off. Some are very loud, some are too soft. I used the settings in Display->Mixer to set them, and they sound right during playback inside of MuseScore. But in the .WAV it's totally wrong. It also kind-of sounds like the entire track is being played in a well. Muffled. Distant. Blurred. Muddy.
Unfortunately the wav file is 32mb, so I can't upload it. Maybe I can reduce it to a couple of bars to see if it will be under the 2mb limit ... I'll try that later.
In the mean time I do appreciate your feedback. Thank you!
-k-
In reply to By terrible I mean: The by kGibson_
Try to save at OGG instead.
In reply to Try to save at OGG instead. by [DELETED] 5
Ok, I tried OGG and got the same result. So now I'm wondering if something's odd about the playback within musescore.
I've cut down the composition to just a few bars, and have attached the mscz and the ogg file. When I play the mscz, the violin part is just slightly louder than the rest of the instruments, which is what I want. But when I play the ogg file the violin completely drowns out the others. And with the ogg file the entire composition sounds muddy while the mscz is much cleaner.
If you get a chance to listen, can you please tell me if you're hearing the same difference I am?
Again, I thank you for your help on this.
In reply to Ok, I tried OGG and got the by kGibson_
If you go to Display > Synthesizer and turn down the vertical sliders for "Rev" and "Cho" and then do the same for reverberation and chorus settings in Display > Mixer you will get a much better audio (see attached).
I'm not sure if the exported audio is different from playback or if the reverb and chorus effects are more audible because the audio has been normalized and is much louder overall.
Meadows Sample.ogg (with less synthesized reverb and chorus)
In reply to If you go to Display > by David Bolton
Thank you .... the .ogg file you provided does sound better; but definitely not the same. I'm assuming Musescore simply isn't capable of rendering a .wav or .ogg accurately. Not being a musician, I don't know why that is. But I can accept it. :)
I'm hoping I can export the composition to MIDI, and import it into a synthesizer or something. I'd really love to have an accurate .wav or .mp3 or something I can share with family and friends. Unfortunately, the direct output from Musescore doesn't cut it.
It's still a fun program though!
Thanks again for your help,
-k-
In reply to Thank you by kGibson_
For just recording the sound, I found a free program called Audacity.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
Very simple, perfect sound reproduction.
Woohoo!
-k-
I am using MuseScore 1.0 and I can confirm there's something wrong with the export to wav feature (OR with the synthetizer playback).
(Putz.. I can't upload ogg files?)
anyway, I wrote this short thing from zero. Playback in MuseScore is pretty dry - using the default soundfont and without touching the mixer or synthetizer effects in any way. But then the ogg/wav file is generated with a very heavy reverb you can't listen inside musescore. (Note that effect sliders are reset when restarting musescore).
I tried to dry out all parameters in both the mixer and the synth dialogs, but the wav file is still full of echo. But, at a certain point, it seems to work. I am trying to reproduce the steps for this, but it seems to me that changes in effect settings are ignored until something else is done, i.e. switching soundfont or dunno what.
I think this is a junction of some small bugs. I am trying to isolate them. I am using the windows version 1.0 and the default TimGM6mb.sf2 soundfont.
1. Reverb slider playback: When I open museScore, the reverb slider on the synth is reset at about 70%. (it is bad that it resets, for starters). But the real reverb I listen is that was set before closing last session. In other words, If I dry the reverb to zero and then restart musescore, i hear no reverb, even with the slider at 70% again. But if I slightly drag the reverb slider, the change takes effect.
2. Export to audio. It seems that the export uses the maximum values for reverb and volume, ignoring the Synth window settings. I just exported the composition with minimum Vol and Rev in the synth window, and the OGG or WAV file is extremely loud and echoed.
The only way to export a dry audio file is to turn down the Rev controls on the mixer. This is not a workaround but a confirmation of the bug - even when the 'effects' are high, turning down the Rev knob of each channel prevents the effect to be applied.
In reply to Wav/Ogg bugs by elerouxx
As a related bug, when changing the soundfont file in the synth window, the Reverb of each instrument in the mixer is reset to zero. Not the knobs! they remain the same, but no reverb is heard. I have to touch the knobs slightly with the mouse so they aren't ignored anymore.