need help deleting notes interactively
Can someone suggest the best way to delete the "extra" notes from the lower most bassoon part in the score I've attached.
By "extra" notes I mean that the bottom line has multi-note chords. I want to delete everything except the lower-most note of each chord, without effecting the figured base numerals.
Can someone suggest a way to do this?
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Adding 3 bassoons at the bottom, selecting the present bottom staff, using Édition>Outils>Éclater (french names) ....and you'll just have to proceed to some cleaning.
See attach'd
In reply to Adding 3 bassoons at the by robert leleu
I think on the english menus, that Edit->Tools->Explode.
If that's the best way, then so it is.
I wish there was a way to just select, all the bottom notes of a staff. That way I could cut and past them to a 2nd staff, then, delete the rest of the notes from the 1st staff, then cut and past the notes from the 2nd staff back.
In fact, being able to select the top/bottom notes would be a great feature.
I wonder whether I could implement that in the source as a tool. I'll have to think about it.
In reply to I think on the english menus, by jim.newton.562
I'm sure it's possible, but I don't understand what you'd be wanting to use that for in preference to Expldoe, which is a very common operation. Can you explain your use case in more detail?
In reply to I'm sure it's possible, but I by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc, in fact you ask a very good question. It's hard to know which features would be really useful, and which would be used too rarely to clutter the menu. I'm basing my request off a demo I saw of Finale at a MusicMesse/frankfurt. The way the Finale expert user used the feature seemed to me much easier than the musescore explode feature. Admittedly explode is very powerful in some cases as well.
Explode requires several awkward actions. I must add additional temporary staffs, one per voice, being careful to make sure they staffs are adjacent. I must copy the chords I want split to each staff. Then select the staffs I just created. Then activate the Explode menu item, then copy the notes from the exploded staffs to where I want them to go in the score. Then delete the unwanted temporary staffs.
In Finale, I simply select the chords I'm interested in, press the bindkey (or presumably menu item) to "tune" the selection to the top notes or bottom notes, then press either cut or copy, then paste the copied notes where I want them to go.
One might argue that the two flows do enable the same final result, but frankly I find the Finale use model, more intuitive and faster.
This might be difficult or impossible to implement in musescore, as I don't think there is a concept of selecting multiple single notes of chords. I might be wrong about that.
What do you think?
In reply to Hi Marc, in fact you ask a by jim.newton.562
First, I think you misunderstand. I get (sort of) that Epxlode doens't seem to fit your particular use case well - you speak of "temporary staves", but Explode is really meant for cases where those staves aren't temporary at all. Entering, say, a chord for four trumepts on a single staff, then exploding it onto the three remaining trumept staves below.
You seem to have some other sort of use case in mind, but I don't really udnerstand what it is. Understanding what it is - what your purpose in wanting these particular notes selected it - would be essential in understanding whether this is actually a generally useful ferature or just soemthing that would have helepd in this one special never-to-be-encountered-again scenario. Other than the case of exploding onto existing staves - no temporary staves required - I'm struggling to understand what it is you are actually trying to accomplish. Can you post the specific score you are having problems with and descirbe more precisely what you are actually trying to do?
In reply to First, I think you by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc for the explanation. The example of the trumpets is a good example. I understand the intent a little better now.
The case that I normally have is an existing accompaniment such as a piano score (or a staff having been generated from realize figured bass which is still experimental) and I want to divide the chords on the piano staves distributing the notes among various orchestra instruments, which probably are not on the adjacent staves. I may want to copy particular harmonies to one or several different instruments. And in addition, I may not want to alter the piano chords at all, but sometimes indeed I do want the notes deleted from the piano staff when it has been "moved" to another instrument, just to help me remember which harmonies are remaining to distribute.
Does this explanation help understand my use case?
In reply to Thanks Marc for the by jim.newton.562
Sounds like the staves *are* present, then, but just currently in the right order? Still seems that going to Instruments, rearranging them *put* them in the right order, then running Explode would do exactly the right thing and quite efficiently. If you wanted to keep the original, simply Copy first, then Paste back. It still seems to me this would like be less work than copying and pasting individual lines to individual parts.
Anyhow, if I am understanding you, what you propose would not work. Even if there were a tool to select, say, the bottom notes only, you'd then have a list selection of individual notes. Those can't be copied and pasted - only range selections. A function to reduce a selection to the bottom notes would be useful only to delete the notes, or to operate on them within their current chords & staff (eg, transpose them, change properties in Inspector).