Notation 8vaBasso

• Dec 11, 2015 - 11:09

Hi,
I write scores for a "Kontraguitar" (13 Strings, 6 discant, 7 additional strings from Eb2 down to A2).
If I enter an D2 or A2 it is unreadable because of to many helplines. The usual notation is e.g. D2 with 8vaBassa.
If I enter this that way, it is extremely time consuming, as 8va appears always for the whole bar and has to be edited for one single note. Also the symbol cannot be copied.

Any ideas how to solve this problem?

Thanks
Hermann

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• Dec 11, 2015 - 13:35

- Contraguitar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraguitar

Since August 17, a support for input and display of bass strings notation is implemented (EDIT: for TAB, of course, perhaps it's not your request?)
This feature will be available in the next release version of MuseScore (2.0.3 maybe), or you can try with a Nightly version.
By waiting, what is exactly the tuning of this instrument, string by string, please?
Because I don't understand your setting in "String Data": I see eg:
1) E4
2) Eb2, a mistake probably

Is it this tuning or not?
- 6 first strings as guitar ie: E4/B3/G3/D3/A2/E2
- then 7 additionnal strings tuned chromatically : Eb2/D2/C#2/C2/B1/Bb1/A1 (so, don't understand neither what you say: "7 additional strings from Eb2 down to A2")

So, to know firstly how is tuned this instrument from the first (top) string to the lowest one.

EDIT2: if my presumption is this one (ie standard staff only, and a tuning from E4 to A1 ?), I post what could be a template (in any case, a first test) : Contraguitar test.mscz
But no sure for now to fully understand your request (more related maybe to the 8vb notation, BTW, your message title!) So, some details will be useful.

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• Dec 11, 2015 - 15:38

" as 8va appears always for the whole bar and has to be edited for one single note. Also the symbol cannot be copied."
Indeed, the lines actually cannot be copy-paste. It's a former feature request which has been forgotten, I fear alas #2861: Lines can't be pasted
And yes, also, for 8vb (or other) which appears for the whole bar (except for the last note of a measure/bar).
You have to edit indeed the anchorage with Shift and arrow keys for each bass note scattered in the score (if it's the case): ottavas.mscz

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• Dec 11, 2015 - 15:56

Tuning of Instrument is
- 6 first strings as guitar ie: E4/B3/G3/D3/A2/E2
- then 7 additionnal strings tuned chromatically : Eb2/D2/C#2/C2/B1/Bb1/A1

The Setting in my string data is definitly wrong, I didn't realize how to put them in correct order - it's ok now.
"Contraguitar test" is ok.

I attach an example of a score to give you an idea of my problem.

Hermann

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• Dec 11, 2015 - 16:11

So yes, I had understood. And so I understand that your query is, in particular, to be able to copy and paste ottavas on few different notes within the score. But as already said, this copy-paste of lines (and so, ottavas) is not implemented yet. Therefore refer to my previous answer for now.

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• Dec 13, 2015 - 11:24

I found some Information, there seems to exists a 'German' Version with 12 strings, the 6 additional bass strings tuned diatonically down from the lowest 'regular' string and Viennese ones with 13 or 15 strings, with those additional 7 or 9 bass strings tuned chormatically down from the lowest 'regular' string. I guess it wouln't harm to add the max. number of strings, it should be easier to delete strings, or just not use them vs. add some. Just not sure about the different tunings.
There seem to exist versions with nylon- and with steel stings, different sound... but I guess the majority is nylon nowadays?

I think it should go into the ethnic section of the instruments list.

See https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2312

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