Playback issue with ottavas

• Dec 13, 2015 - 15:28

Trying to make life easier for a continuo player, I am transcribing a tenor-clef section of the basso continuo part into bass clef, but setting it an octave lower because it goes up to a high A-flat. Hence I will place an ottava line above those 9 measures.

The graphic part of this is not a problem, but during the orchestration process it's useful to hear a reasonably accurate playback of the score. Unfortunately, the score plays at the octave only for those notes under the original length of the ottava line as it was dragged from the palette (which extends from wherever it is anchored to the next barline). These lines can be stretched, of course, but any notes under the stretched part of a line (stretched with click-edit) play as written, not at the octave.

I have tried stretching the line both forwards and backwards; I get the same result in both cases. I also tried selecting the entire section to be covered by the ottava, and double-clicking on the palette--to see if I could create an original ottava line the length required--but that doesn't work (as it does for articulations and some other elements).

I have come up with a workaround, which involves setting separate ottava lines for each measure, then editing the properties to remove the end hooks and text and visually stretching the start of each new ottava back into the preceeding one. But it strikes me as odd that the system flag or whatever which signals 'play at the octave' is limited to the default length of the ottava. In the attached score, mm. 13-15 all play at the octave because I set individual ottavas for each (I left those in their original graphic form so you can see where they are); but in mm.16-20, only the first measure plays at the octave because that ottava line was stretched. The playback drops to written pitch on the first note of m.17.

Is there another (better) way to do this, or should this be considered a bug?

MuseScore 2.0.1, OS Windows 7 Professional.

Thanks.

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Comments

Given that I'm just an end user (neither computer nor musician) try this: click on the first note of measure 13, hold Ctrl and click on the last note of measure 20;
Double-click on ottava line in the palette.

In reply to by Shoichi

That will actually only select the first and last notes of the phrase, not all the intervening ones. To select an entire phrase, you'd have to use SHIFT+click/click. But it doesn't work anyway; double-clicking the ottava line in the palette does not produce a line over the selected material, no matter how it's selected.

In reply to by Shoichi

Sorry; I didn't realise you were communicating through the G-Trans-bot. (I know the feeling well, as my German and Italian are limited to the common musical terms, so when I have to write to a music librarian in, say, Dresden or Milan, I've got the same problem.)

I downloaded your revision of the score and it works, but thanks to G-Trans's lack of precision, I'm not sure exactly how you did it. No matter; the trick of using SHIFT+→ works fine, so my problem is solved.

Place your ottava at the beginning of the phrase, anchored to the first note. Double-click on the ottava and use [Shift] - RightArrow to extend the line as far as you want. Visual PLUS playback is affected this way rather than just visual if you dragged it by the handles.

In reply to by Recorder485

Not sure which two different methods you mean. Dragging is definitely *not* the same thing as correctly setting the anchor points. Dragging is meant for visual adjustments - when you need the line to visually look a little longer or shorter than the default for the selected anchor point. Changing anchor point is for, well, changing the anchor point, which is normally what you want. Different techniques for different purposes.

Also, FYI: the feature of being able to add lines by first selecting the region then double clicking the palette icon is new for 2.0.2. In 2.0.1 and earlier, lines, repeats, and a few other symbols could only be added by drag and drop.

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