G-bugle family, please

• Apr 29, 2014 - 06:03

Hello,
Please add the G-bugle family of brass winds. The standard voices are soprano, mellophone, baritone, and contrabass. All should default to treble cleff (even contrabass) and all in the key of G.

Thanks very much in advance if this would be possible.


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Looks like these (and a few others - alto bugle, euphonium bugle) have already been added for 2.0.

Meanwhile, you can simply use the closest instruments in terms of sound (2.0 won't provide new samples for these either; it is limited to whatever standard General MIDI brass sounds are available), then set the name and transposition yourself in Staff Properties.

EDIT: looks like in 2.0, they are added as concert pitch instruments. Is this correct? I understand that the instrument is actually pitched in G, but I don't see any literature to say whether they are supposed to be transposed (so music for them is written in C) or whether the music is simply written in G. I suspect the answer will be, different musical cultures do it different ways.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Yes, G-bugle music is written in C using treble clef for all voices. Some low voice users may transpose to bass, but the default behavior should be treble for everything including the contrabass (see top results for reference here ).

I think most G-bugle users will be satisfied with standard brass samples. We'd love authentic samples (the difference in sound is remarkable), but I'd expect most will be thrilled just to see the instruments on the list and properly configured.

G-bugles represent a distinct musical culture without much variation with respect to convention. The modern drum corps activity abandoned the use of G-bugles altogether in 1999 for financial reasons (commercial endorsements) and now uses standard mixed-key (Bb and F) symphonic instruments.. so I wouldn't expect them to weigh in here. The most respected voice for the G-bugle community is now probably the The US Marine D&BC, but they use Finale on the governments dime, so they probably won't weigh in either.

Thanks very much for taking your time to respond, and for your involvement in Musescore. I see you work as a composer. If you're interested, here's a paper on The G Bugle; History and Identity written by a current member of the MET orchestra: and another here .

In reply to by rgfuller

Just to check that I have interpreted you right.

A G bugle part is written in concert pitch but with a suitable octave transposition to compensate for it being written in treble clef?

Perhaps you would be kind enough to download and run a nightly build of MuseScore 2 and check that the transpositions and clefs are correct.

Transposition and clef informations is held in the instruments.xml file which you can find in the templates folder.

When I prepared the instruments.xml file for MuseScore 2 I couldn't find transposition information so left it as concert.

Yes, that's right. The fundamental note (lowest note with open valves) for all voices is written as middle C in treble clef. When each voice plays that note together you hear concert G in different octaves. I'll take a look at the build. Thanks very much.

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