Space in lyrics and other text issues
So I just updated to 2.0 and here's a problem I didn't have before.
1. I used to be able to use the "|" symbol (Shift+\) in the lyrics. But now when I use it, it just looks like the letter "l".
An alternative to this solution would be having a blankspace between a word and the "|" but space just takes me to the next note. Please see the attached file. I need to have "ma |" or even "ma|" but not "mal" under a note.
2. As in my previous post, I need to move the first line a bit lower as it's too cramped on top.
3. Also, I need to put in a bit of instruction at the bottom of the page. What is the best way to do that?
Any help appreciated, thanks. Lesson_1_-_Sarali_Varisai first speed.pdf
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Comments
ad 1: Ctrl+Space adds a space to a lyrics syllable. It does in 2.0 and did in 1.x too.
ad 2: as mentioned in another thread, it is difficult to day witout seen the actual score, but maybe a vertical spacer up would help here, or changing some settings like music upper distance or frame lower distance
Edit: now there is an mscz file... and indeed frame lower distance does seem to work well.
ad 3: one option: append a vertical frame, add frame text to that.
In reply to ad 1: Ctrl+Space adds a space by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks about the space tip.
I've attached the mscz file here. For the issue with moving the first line down
In reply to Thanks about the space tip. by hoodunit9
As mentioned here and in the other thread frame lower distance does move the music down
It is set to 4sp, set to e.g. 6sp (using Inspcetor, F8)
In reply to As mentioned here and in the by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok.
Forgive my utter ignorance on this subject (feel really stupid!)
You mention "frame lower" - I haven't a clue what that is (It's 2:30am and I'm running on fumes)
Here's what I did: I dragged the vertical spacer to the first bar and changed the value in the inspector ( both increase and decrease) but I see no change.
What do you mean "frame lower"?
In reply to Ok. Forgive my utter by hoodunit9
Forget the vertical spacer for now, just select the frame (the one containg title etc.) and check its setting in Inspector. "Distance below" (or some such, I'm looking at the German version), the 2nd entry, is what you'd need to tweak.
In reply to Forget the vertical spacer by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes!!
Thank you!
I can now sleep in peace, good night.
In reply to ad 1: Ctrl+Space adds a space by Jojo-Schmitz
If anyone is interested, for Mac option+Space adds a space between words in MuseScore 3 ;)
In reply to If anyone is interested, for… by B♯
Thank you so much! This saved me. :)
In reply to Thank you so much! This… by loveronnelid
Then check out the Lyrics handbook page for more information that might save you: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/lyrics
In reply to Then check out the Lyrics… by jeetee
Thanks jeetee! You guys in this forum have been phenomenally helpful.
1) Not sure what difference you are expecting to see betwene the | characters and the I character - it will depend on what font you use. In FreeSerif - the new default font - the letter "I" has, well, serifs, which | does not. So to me it is obvious enough that isn't a letter I. But you are welcome to use a different font you prefer. MuseScore formerly used whatever happened to be on your system, meaning your score looked different on every system because every system has different fonts. That is why we decided to provide a font that would be used by default, so people could be assured their scores would look the same on all systems (at least to the extent possible).
2) It looks like the text is larger than frame. Not sure if this was the case in 1.3 as well, but in general, you should not have text extening below the frame. If you want the text lower, resize the frame, don't move the text down. So select both the composer and lyricist text, press Ctrl+R to reset to default position, then resize the frame as necessary. This will create the correct amount of space.
That might be all the space you need. Since you've already saved this in 2.0 I can't load it in 1.3 any more to compare, but if you were expecting *more* space than fixing the proboem with the composer & lyricist text provides, then my guess is, you were relying on a bug in 1.3 that has been fixed, where 1.3 would include *both* the "Music upper margin" and "Vertical frame lower margin" settings from Style / General between the title frame and the first line of music, when really, "Music upper margin" should only have applied to space between the music and the page margin. It was thus impossible to get independent control of these parameters. This is improved in 2.0, but it means that scores that formerly relied on "Music upper margin" to control the distance between the title frame and first line of music need to be adjusted. This is just as I guessed in my first response to your other thread :-)
3) Depends on how exactly where you want it to appear and how you want it handled should the formatting of the page change. If it's literally a page footer - supposed to be on the bottom of the page no matter how full or empty the page is, then Style / General / Header, Footer, Numbers. If it's just text that should appear immediately after the music, then appending a text or vertical frame would be the way to go.
In reply to 1) Not sure what difference by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for that. Very helpful.
New issue posted with separate subject line
In reply to 1) Not sure what difference by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc--just a quick question on part 1) of your comment above. I often use a font other than Freeserif for certain text elements--titles, sometimes lyrics--namely, Cardo, which is a free font, but one which does not come preloaded on most operating systems. When I do share files from Musescore, it's usually as a pdf., but if I were to share a mscz. file to someone who has Musescore but not Cardo loaded, does that mean it wouldn't display correctly?
In reply to Hi Marc--just a quick… by wfazekas1
Yes, it would get replaced by some system dependant default font