Grayed out notes

• Apr 29, 2015 - 01:06

For some reason, some notes are grayed out, and the sound from those notes are muffled. How can I fix this problem?


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In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Thank you.
It is the 17th bar, in the base clef, two c's are greyed out. I deleted the bar, and reentered these notes with the same result.

Incidentally, I also cannot delete the left "A", Rehearsal mark, at the top. Normally, I can easily highlight the mark by double click and then I move, but this time, nothing worked. I ended up leaving because it has no effect on the score, but I would like to know if there's q way to delete it for the future reference.

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In reply to by nkg0319

The two notes are at the top end of the singing range for the basses, hence colored light green. If they were outside of the range they would red.

As for the unselectable rehearsal mark, select the other A, right click and select "select all similar elements" and type Ctrl-R to reset them. The first A will move back a page, so you dragged it off the page and it becomes unselectable.

In reply to by schepers

Thank you for your great help.
The rehearsal mark issue was resolved per your suggestion.
As for the greyed out notes, I understand the top range indicator, but muffle or dampen those notes on play back is Just curious. After all, it is a fairly common C for the bass singers.
Thanks again.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

It seems that note is a little quieter in the Ahh Choir sound in Fluid than some of the surrounding notes. C#, D, D# right above middle C - presumably all coming from the same sample - are slightly quieter. I don't particularly care for that sound anyhow - in this soundfont or any that I've tried. Switching to any other sound would fix it.

In reply to by nkg0319

I think overall, FluidR3 is one of the very best there is. Maybe only Timbres of Heaven is better in general, but it's also much larger. There are plenty of other soundfonts available, though, that might not be as good in general but might happen to have a more pleasing chor ahh sound you might be prefer. Realistically - or more to the point, *not* realistically :-) - choir sounds are pretty much always terrible, because they can't do words, and the sound of human voice is something we know so werll that we have a hard time accepting any compromises at all, and synthesizing sound - even from actual samples - is nothing if not a compromise.

In a similar vein, I could paint you a picture of the tree in your back yard that would be off in a thousand details but you'd probably still accept as basically right, but if I painted a portait of your significant other and had the angle of one eyebrow slightly off, you'd be bothered by it big time.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Your point about the drawing is well taken here, but it would be helpful in general to have an additional choice of sound palate. Are these sound-fonts you suggest easy enough to implement to the general use of the Musescore? I mean, once installed, does it becomes a part of the play back default?
As for a better human sound, I think only time before it is trickle down for our uses to reproduce more realistic voice. At least they are working on more realistic speech, now, as we speak.

In reply to by nkg0319

Bass range is whatever any particular bass can sing. And it's not like their voice just stops at some point - the quality just diminishes. MuseScore marks "amateur" and "professional" ranges separately, and middle C is a pretty commonly cited safe upper bound for the useful range of a bass - most textbooks etc would say the same. If you are bothered by the warning, you can turn it off, or use Staff Properties to tell MuseScore what range you'd prefer it use. but I think it's spot on here - if you are writing above middle C for a bass, you are asking for trouble unless you know these are professionals.

The "muffled" sound is just a matter of some notes in some soundfonts being a different volume than others. It is notoriously difficult to get all notes in all sounds to be perfectly well balanced. If you heard the same with the soundfont provided with 1.3, it's just coincidence.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Thank you for your suggestion, turning off the range, in the note setting, solved the annoying mystery. With it, the sound is back to normal too in the play back.
For amateure or professional, middle C is commonly seen in the bass scores, so I am still mystified by the default setting though.

You mean that muddy green? If so: it means the note is outside the amateur range of that instrument, but still within the professional range
muffled sound might be instrument specific, we had issues with the soundfont not providing all pitches for certain instruments. I think Alto Sax and some recorder were affected. A fixed soundfont is available, see https://musescore.org/en/node/41521#comment-253191

If that isn't it, please be more specific and share the score

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