Bugs and Propose things!!

• Oct 24, 2015 - 14:50

Good morning,
I use MuseScore now for 2 years and this new version (2) is much improved.
I wanted to post some bugs and propose things (I wrote the assistance. Assistance advised me to copy everything here, for the moment).

1) I have a problem when I add the part of the trumpet (using the "add tool" and then "copy and paste" in a general score: it is changed in tonality. This does not happen with the other instruments.
2) With some instruments like the French horn, changing the eighth with the right click> properties of the pentagram, is exchanged the command "up" with the "down".
3) Missing command to select each sound determined instrument in any tonality.
4) Audiveris not work very well (on the new Mac does not work at all, and even on the latest Ubuntu) and I would like to propose to incorporate it in MuseScore (since it is a project with open license and free), and to perfect it in time for it to become a tool even better SmartScore Pro X2. It would be very amazing to be able to scan and manage the scores directly from MuseScore.
5) Please increase the maximum number of loadable scores without paying. A teacher who wants to help but does not have money to donate every month, can only have 5 scores in the database! It would contribute much more to the community with 100 scores each base (the scores in the format musescore take up little space) or even 50!!!! 5 are few!
6) PLEASE introduct the LilyPond files IMPORTING! (and after exportation/exporting xD ) ( .ly files ) midi format is bad for professional writers!!
7) Last but not least, it is absent command to select multiple scores simultaneously WITHOUT select them all and to move a row to stave page WITHOUT move the others. Commands very comfortables to copy only musical phrases or to write music books without changing the program.
8) I would like to have MuseScore (writing functions) on tablets, with StaffPad's functions: writing pen and export in .xml format *-* [i have the ios app but it's only for the listening :( ]

Thank you all for your answers and good luck!!

Sorry for my bad english!
L.

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 14:55

Thanks for your comments. In order to be of much help, however, we would need you to attach the specific score you are having problems with and precise step by step instructions to reproduce the problem. And it's better to start separate threads for separate threads.

In particular, I don't understand what you mean by #1, #2, or #6 at all - could you please explain further?

For #3, MuseScore has a wide variety of tranposition commands. The "COncert Pitch" button automatically transposes all staves according to the instrument - eg, by a major second for Bb instruments, a maxjor sixth for Eb instruments. There is also the command Notes / Transpose.

For #4, yes, optical musical recognition - what Audiveris does - is extremely experimental new technology. You shouldn't expect too much of it.

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 15:18

Thanks for the help!
1) I have a problem when I add the part of the trumpet (using the "add tool" and then "copy and paste") in a general score: it is changed in tonality. This does not happen with the other instruments.

= the program has a problem with the inclusion of trumpet parts in a director's general score.
Trumpet is the only instrument that changes tonality (bug).

2) changing the eighth with the right click> properties of the pentagram, is exchanged the command "up" with the "down"

= some instrument it's transposed up when i click down and down when i click up (bug).

7) I want to select only 2 or 3 or maybe 15 musical beats, not all the partiture.
and i want to move (for example) only the third line of my partiture and leave fixed the first two lines; this, to have space in the middle (only from 2th and 3th line) to write!

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 15:32

Again, in order to hekp, we need you to attach the specific score and give *precise step by step instructions* to reproduce the problem.

It is possible you are simply misunderstanding how trumepts work. Are you aware music for trumpets is always transposed up a major second? MuseScore does this for you automatically when you copy and paste; it's correct behavior and not a bug.

Making selections in MuseScore can be done just like msot other programs: click the first note you want to select, then shift_click the last. Everything between those points will be selected.

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 16:03

Thanks for the Help and sorry for my bad translation :)

I know that the trumpet is always transposed but the program has a problem with the inclusion of trumpet parts in a director's general score.
Trumpet is the only instrument that changes tonality (precisely a fourth above). I enclose the bug procedure:

1) I open the full score (E b Major)
2) I select Modify>>Instruments>> Trumpet in B b (add) [i have just add it]
3) the trumpet is the only instrument that isn't copied from the original tonality (E b Major in this case); for the horn, the oboe etc. it's works and the tonality doesn't change!

I use the command cmd + c (in all the trumpet partiture [cmd + a]), cmd + v (in the general partiture, precisely in the trumpet space) for tranfert the trumpet part.

Thanks a lot for the Shift + click command !!!!!!
How can i move only 1 line of my general score?

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 16:48

LilyPond is a totally unrelated separate program. The standard format all notation programs read and write is called MusicXML. You can import and export MusicXML files in MuseScore, and you can presumably convert MusicXML to and from LilyPond format, as well as Finale, Sibelius, etc.

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 16:54

About Lilypond export, Musescore used to have it in version 1.3 but nobody cares enough to support it so we had to remove it. On top of that, it's possible to export MusicXML from Musescore and import in Lilypond.

Lilypond import is not possible. Lilypond language is very expressive, there are many ways to create a particular musical construct in Lilypond since it's a language made for humans. Only Lilypond can parse lilypond. However, MuseScore supports MusicXML import.

MuseScore is GPLv2 but I'm not sure what your point is by comparing the licenses.

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• Oct 24, 2015 - 16:57

I'm still not sure I understand. I followed your instructions:

1) first I opened the score
2) then i went to edit / instruments
3) I added a trumpet in Bb
4) i pressed OK

The result was as you see here: the trumpet staff has the correctly transposed key signature of F, exactly like the trumpet staff that was already present:

trumpet-transpose.png

Were you doing something different from this, or doing this but for some reason expecting a different result? This result is completely correct.

Maybe you mean, you have this separate file that has only the trumpet part, and you are trying to copy and paste music from that separate file into the full score. First, are you aware MuseScore has an automatic facility for generating parts - File / Parts - so you should not normall;y ever need to be copying music between score and parts? When using MuseScore's part facility, changes are automatically linked - any notes you enter in the score are automatically entered into the part and vice versa.

Anyhow, the trumpet score you are trying to copy from has the wrong tranposition. Press the Concert Pitch button and you will see the music transpose as if it were an Eb instrument. If you right click the staff and go to Staff Properties, you will see the transposition is set to minor third. That is why the music looks different when you copy it to the full score, which has the correct transposition.

As for how to "move 1 line", I don't know what you mean by a "line" or what you mean by "move". If you wish to change the order of the staves, use the Up & Down buttons in Edit / Instruments. If you wish to move music from one staff to another, use cut and paste.

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• Feb 5, 2020 - 19:03

‘sOK, if one has lilypond, there is no point to going back to other formats. The default behavior of Lilypond is designed to emulate the artistic hand-scribed notation prior to mechanical reproduction. It is beautiful stuff, and the only salient reason for wanting to go to Lilypond is to achieve a nicer look. Going the opposite direction makes little sense.

Hopefully such an import to Lilypond doesn’t try to over control and slam in unuseful details. Better that such an import to Lilypond contain only the meaning of the music rather than arbitrary placement details... I know nothing of such exports so I don’t know if the Lilypond imports would be clean or useless.

That would depend on whether MuseScore mostly deals with meaning or graphic shape in export. Something I am totally ignorant of having never used MuseScore.

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• Oct 25, 2015 - 09:26

There has been no new version of Audiveris for over a year now - the last release was on 26th November 2013.

I did try to get that running on Windows 10 a couple of weeks ago, but without success.

Thomas has an experimental version of it running on MuseScore.com which you can upload scores to for processing, but results aren't guaranteed, and, even if they don't fail can produce extremely unpredictable results.

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• Oct 25, 2015 - 10:16

I hope that in the future they will insert the digital scanning. I think that open & free digital scanning & tablet's hand scripture (like StaffPad but free & open) are rights and achievements of humanity!!!

As a private school teacher, I also use Finale 2014 and SmartScore Pro X2 (which works fine in the scan and opening pdf) but they are too much expensives (I bought them regularly) and above all they do not have the open code and the open license.

So MuseScore, for me, is the BEST music notation program in the world!
Freedom and communion of our findings don't have a price.

I hope that the "scanning project" and "music writing with a pen on a tablet" will be brought forward in Musescore, because they are the future and save a lot of work and therefore time.

The gratuitousness of knowledge means inclusiveness!

Thanks a lot to everyone for your help!!

L.

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• Oct 25, 2015 - 20:16

If you are interested in Audiveris then you might find this thread on the Audiveris forum interesting.

Basically, a new version (V5) of Audiveris is "coming soon" (it has been "coming soon" for over a year now, these things are always more tricky than they seem at first!) and when it arrives it will have a much nicer interface and support for poorer quality scores. See this post for a sneak peak of an early build!

However, for the foreseeable future it is unlikely that Audiveris will be integrated with MuseScore.

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