Accidental over a trill

• Oct 16, 2016 - 22:03

I'm entering a composition in G major. It has an E with a trill, but the upper note of the trill should be F natural rather than F sharp. How can I put an accidental over the trill, to indicate that it applies to the upper note of the trill rather than to the written note?

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• Oct 16, 2016 - 23:59

I'd be interested to know of a standard way of doing this.
I can tell you how to do this as a "workaround":

Utilize a second voicing (or a third voicing if you're already using it) and put an F-Natural at the same time as your E. I'd go as far as to make it small and stemless, then uncheck "visible" and "play" in the inspector. I think you have to also make invisible the 2nd-voiced note's natural sign. This will set up the trill to play F-natural. The trill will still need a symbol or an instruction showing that it is to be F-Natural, and I'm not sure how that is done standardly. What I'd do with my limited knowledge is add a natural to your E, make it small in the inspector, then drag it appropriately to be adjacent to the Trill sign. Uncheck "Show Invisible" afterwards under the View menu. Just to be sure, any following F#'s in the same measure having the trill would need an explicit # on it.

The result would be something like:
webetrillin2.png

Hope this helps.

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• Oct 17, 2016 - 01:14

Thanks, I'm using the latter part of your suggestion only, because in this case I don't care what the playback sounds like. I just wanted an online version of one of the Bach suites for cello so I could change the bowing, and moving the natural from the E up to the upper right of the trill is perfect. Maybe someone will come up with a standard way of doing it, as you say, that would also sound the correct note in the playback, but I'm satisfied for now. Thanks again.

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• Oct 17, 2016 - 02:39

There are easier ways :-)

Simplest is to click the trill then double click the appropriate accidental in the palette. This works only for trill "Lines", though, not trill "Articulations". To add an accidental to a trill "Articulation", you can use the Symbols palette. Click the note, press "Z" to display the Symbols palette, then type the name of the natural into the search box, double click the one you want, then adjust the position manually. You can also add it as text - Ctrl+T to enter text, F2 to display the Special Characters palette, then double click the desired accidental. This allows you to resize it as well.

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• Oct 17, 2016 - 05:20

Hey Marc, thanks for pointing out that the palette works with trill lines. New information :)
As for a trill articulation, it's even easier to click the note and press that Natural button that's available on Musescore's main screen up at the top rather than going to the palette, unless one of those special natural symbols are what you want. I'm not for sure, but of special interest here may be the natural sign with the arrow pointing downward on its foot since it's from sharp-to-natural rather than flat-to-natural.

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