transcription of Renaissance music
Hi there.
I would like to transcribe on MuS this piece of Guillaume Dufay, who lived in 15th, but I don't know how to implement it correctly (see attachment).
Can anybody provide advice? Is there a specific guide for the old way of writing?
Thanks.
| Attachment | Size |
|---|---|
| Dufay - Adieu m'amour, adieu ma joye - Besseler.pdf | 1.84 MB |
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https://musescore.org/it/node/278635
In reply to https://musescore.org/it… by frirobi48
Thanks.
Actually I'm opening an XML file (see attachment)
Is there a way to tell MuS that it has to read according to the rule specified in the documentation?
Alternatively, how should I modify the XML file in order to include the necessary info in order to be read correctly?
Thanks.
In reply to Actually I'm opening an XML… by Trottolina
The xml has the info exported from the program that created it. Editing the score now is not too much of a problem, just do what the Manual link told you to do as though you hadn't entered any notes yet. You can adjust the barlines still, you can make the notes display across note boundaries and so forth.
I do suspect that there are problems with how the different voices (instruments in MuseScore) line up. Fixing this will require knowledge of the source score (I haven't looked it up) and probably enough work to make fixing this xml import harder than creating this short score from scratch.
In reply to The xml has the info… by mike320
Thanks for your advice.
Salve,
a dire il vero questa partitura è molto semplice da scrivere con MuseScore però occorre avere una buona conoscenza del software e, questa conoscenza, la si ottiene solamente studiando molto bene il manuale!
Eccoti in ALLEGATO i "primi passi" da fare: l'impostazione delle stanghette.
Sarebbe troppo lungo spiegare tutti i passaggi tramite "forum", mi spiace, studia il manuale e provaci.
Ti posso solamente dire che con MuseScore si può scrivere perfettamente tutta la musica che vuoi, a qualsiasi genere essa appartenga.
Buon studio e buon lavoro.
In reply to Salve, a dire il vero questa… by Claudio Riffero
I'll add to Claudio's remark. Learn the basics of entering a score then try what the handbook says about ancient music, then if you get stuck feel free to ask for specific advice.
Grazie Claudio and Thanks all.
One thing I've forgotten to mention is the different alterations at the key.
The Tenor has got a Sib at the key, which is missing from the others.
I could not find a specific entry for this in the documentation and since the MuS specific feature applies to all instruments, I don't know how to operate in order to get this result.
Thanks.
In reply to One thing I've forgotten to… by Trottolina
Ancora sempre il manuale:
https://musescore.org/it/node/278573#replace-key-sig-for-one-staff
In reply to Ancora sempre il manuale:… by frirobi48
Grazie
In reply to Grazie by Trottolina
Ciao,
eccoti 2 allegati:
1) è un file MuseScore nel quale potrai vedere (mettendo "✔︎" accanto a "mostra.." in "Visualizza") ciò che ho fatto.
2) è il Pdf nel caso tu ne abbia bisogno.
Purtroppo non posso darti spiegazioni sul forum di come ho proceduto nei vari casi, ci vorrebbe troppo tempo.
Spero che tu riesca a capire dal file MuseScore.
Buona musica.
In reply to Ciao, eccoti 2 allegati: 1)… by Claudio Riffero
Grazie Claudio, il tuo gesto è estremamente gentile!
In reply to Grazie by Trottolina
Ciao,
guarda l'allegato.
Buona musica.
In reply to Ciao, guarda l'allegato… by Claudio Riffero
Grazie
Some things to think about. As you know, Renaissance printed music had no bar lines, seldom any meter or key signature. Your pdf is Bresseler's idea to make this music easier to read by more modern standards, and not an old way of writing at all. So the choices would be....
1. Go back and recreate the original as best you can. There are examples out there.
2. Recreate Bresseler's work which is a hybrid at best.
3. Go ahead and use modern notation.
I used to play recorder in a Renaissance group. The modern books we played four part music (each on a separate line) from had no measures. But the notes were spaced so that beats in all the parts lined up. Personally, I would do modern notation. The people who are going to play your transcription are not playing original instruments. They are playing modern reproductions. We don't really know what OE players on OE instruments sounded like. Nor do we know much about playing styles. I think this holds true in spirit, even though your music is vocal. My guess is that there was some kind of accompaniment when this was performed in Dufay's time.
In reply to Some things to think about… by bobjp
...se il post è rivolto a me, volevo dire che i 2 file (.mscz e Pdf) da me allegati vogliono essere la dimostrazione che con MuseScore si può scrivere tutto ciò che si vuole: dal Rinascimentale (anche non corretto) al contemporaneo.
Buona musica.
In reply to ...se il post è rivolto a me… by Claudio Riffero
Aimed at the OP.
In reply to Aimed at the OP. by bobjp
Thanks for all the help, advices and suggestions.