Hairpins and playback

• Jan 16, 2020 - 10:43

(MS version 3)
Using the playback facility for hairpins takes a bit of getting used to. I put a 'pp' on the 1st note and a 'ff' on the 10th note, selected all 10 notes and hit the crescendo within 'lines' palette. Fine.
But on playback no crescendo.
After a bit of hit and miss, it transpires that the 'ff' has to be on the NEXT note (i.e. the 11th).
So, put pp on first, ff on 11th, select notes 1 to 10 and apply crescendo. Voila!
Your comments welcome


Comments

Or, since you apparently wanted the crescendo ff on the 10th, you could have left it there but then selected only the first 9 when adding the hairpin :-)

Realistically, it's got to be one or the other - to get the expected results, either you select the note that terminates the hairpin or you don't. Whichever way we had implemented it, half the time people would guess wrong. To me the advantage of the current method is that it seems more the expected behavior if there is not a dynamic on the 10th note. Or more to the point, it's definitely the expect result when selecting only a single note - the hairpin most obviously has to continue to the end of the last selected note.

Possibly we could special-case situations where there is a dynamic on the last note, and shorten the hairpin for you ("do what I mean, not what I say").

Totally understand now how it has to work, and now I've discovered it, that's fine. But perhaps if it was documented in the help text? (couldn't find it so was stumbling around).
Many thanks.

In reply to by Ali Wood

Could I ask for clarification again here.
On the last semibreve of a phrase (in a voice part) I wish to diminuendo on the playback from ff down to pp.
How should I achieve this? The bar following the semibreve is a rest.
I don't appear to be having much luck with what the manual says.

In reply to by Ali Wood

You can put a pp on the rest, select it and make it invisible by pressing v. As an alternative, you can select the dim. open the inspector and set the Velocity change to 62. This will do the exact same thing.

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