Chord notation
For a given chord, how can I enter the following same chord becoming "7" without repeating the whole chord name ?
Thanks a lot
For a given chord, how can I enter the following same chord becoming "7" without repeating the whole chord name ?
Thanks a lot
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For example: Enter someting like "F#m ___7" instead of "F#m F#m7"
In reply to For example: Enter someting… by Toto Le Héros
FWIW, though, this isn't really recommended; it's not how music with chord symbols is normally published. Just repeat the chord. There are some special exceptions, and for those, you can simply enter the number and then if you want the playback, enter the full chord also and make it invisible as Jojo suggests.
In reply to FWIW, though, this isn't… by Marc Sabatella
I've seen quite a few printed scores that do this, the below example stems from one
In reply to I've seen quite a few… by Jojo-Schmitz
I’m not saying no one has ever done this, but for every one you find that does, there are 200 more that would show the full G7 (note: it’s that, not G7sus3; the latter is definitely not a thing). So I would still say, not recommended for the vast majority of cases.
Simple: you can't, if you're after the playback.
Workaround: add both (F#m and F#m7), make the 2nd invisible and add another 'chord symbol" as just "7" at the same place as the 2nd (it won't play, but the invisble one does)
I'd have a need for this too (and so far resorted to above workaround):
In reply to Simple: you can't Workaround… by Jojo-Schmitz
So should that G7sus3 rather be a G3?
In reply to So should that G7sus3 rather… by Jojo-Schmitz
I think it means keep the fundamental, 5th and 7th ringing but play the (sus)4th then resolve it to 3rd, i.e. not G7sus3, just G7 but not playing it as a separate chord.
In reply to So should that G7sus3 rather… by Jojo-Schmitz
G7 is the chord. "sus4" means, replace the 3 that would normally be in the chord with a 4. So, G7 already has the 3, there is no need to show it, and that would only cause confusion, because neither G3 nor G7sus3 are meaningful chord symbols.
It's a very common thing in music to have a chord in which the 3 is replaced by 4 for the first few beats, and then the 4 resolves back to the 3. The standard way to notate this in chord symbols is G7sus4 followed by G7, and that's how musicians who read chord symbols are accustomed to reading it.
However, in classical Roman numeral analysis, it's common to show this as V7(4-3) - a single Roman numeral to depict the chord, and the 4-3 to show the motion of the 4 to the 3.
The score here appears to be showing a somewhat inconsistent mixture of the two approaches, which again is not normally ever done.
In reply to G7 is the chord. "sus4"… by Marc Sabatella
So it should be a G7 here?
In reply to So it should be a G7 here? by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes.
In reply to Yes. by Marc Sabatella
Thanks. Soundwise it doesn't make any difference though, MuseScore realizes G7 and G7sus3 the same
In reply to Thanks by Jojo-Schmitz
Well, G7sus3 (if it existed) would mean remove (suspend) the 3rd and replace it with a 3rd so identical to G7. I guess you mean should MS disallow sus3?
In reply to Well, G7sus3 (if it existed)… by underquark
No. Just that it doesn't make a difference, and in my case it is invisible too, so the text is irrelevant, if the sound is the same.