[solved] Hairpin doesn't work
Hairpin doesn't work in this case:
Firstly, the sound, instead of diminishing, stays at the same dynamic/volume/velocity level throughout the whole timespan of hairpin.
Secondly, graphically the hairpin "reuses" to appear between "mf" and "p". Instead, as it can be seen on the photo, the end of hairpin always gets under "p". Why is it so? And how can I fix it?
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Select the hairpin, then drag the right end towards the left. At a certain point, it should snap into place next to the piano marking. Right now, the hairpin is set to end on the same note as the ending dynamic, whereas to work properly, it needs to end the note before the ending dynamic.
In reply to Select the hairpin, then… by dragonwithafez
Thank you. I did as you said and, at least, graphically the problem was solved:
![hairpin_02_tied.jpg]( "hairpin_02_tied.jpg")
However, it is still not reflected in the playback - all the notes still sound equally loud.
Strange, but when I had tried to untie the notes, they started to sound in the playback exactly the way I wanted them to (except as separate notes), that is, each next note was now sounding quieter than the previous one:
![hairpin_03_sep.jpg]( "hairpin_03_sep.jpg")
Why is it so?
How can I keep them all tied and yet sound according to the hairpin?
In reply to Thank you. I did as you said… by innerthought
Don't drag hairpins, use Shift+Left to shorten it
If that doesn't help share the score, we can't hear images ;-)
In reply to Don't drag hairpins, use… by Jojo-Schmitz
Okay. Here is the score:
hairpin_problem.mscz
In reply to Okay. Here is the score: … by innerthought
That Violin has its sound set to "Violins Fast" rather than "Violin Fast Expr." Only the latter sound is capable of Single Note Dynamics
In reply to That Violin has its sound… by Jojo-Schmitz
@Jojo-Schmitz:
I see. Thank you for this explanation.
Here I have a few follow-up questions then that you (if you will) or others reading this thread may want to answer:
1) So what should I do then? If I want most of the staff to be played in "Violins Fast", do I have to switch to "Violin Fast Expr." by providing the Staff-Text notice (the way it is described here: https://musescore.org/en/node/50196) for only these few notes (and then providing yet another one to switch the staff back to "Violins Fast")?
2) Is there any more or less comprehensive source describing such nitty-gritty differences between such things like "Violins Fast", "Violins Fast Expr.", "Violins2 Fast", "Violins2 Fast Expr.", "Violins Slow", "Violins Slow Expr.", "Violins2 Slow", and "Violins2 Slow Expr."?
3) Are there any conventional ways on when professional musicians choose, say, "Violins Fast" and when they "Violins Fast Expr."? For example, is it like "Expr." types are normally used for playing solo parts while non-"Expr." types are used mostly for multiple-instruments accompaniments?
In reply to I see. Thank you for this… by innerthought
"Expr." denotes sounds capable of SND.
In reply to "Expr." denotes sounds… by Jojo-Schmitz
@Jojo-Schmitz:
Where can I learn more about this SND capability? The wiki page on SND (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_sound_file_formats_using_the_.snd…) doesn't explain much.
In reply to @Jojo-Schmitz: Where can I… by innerthought
See How to setup Musescore 3.x for correct playback for all dynamics and hairpins
In reply to See How to use Single Note… by Jojo-Schmitz
WOW!!! Thank you!
In reply to I see. Thank you for this… by innerthought
You shouldn't be using any non-expr sounds at all for violin, since violin support SND. If you need to change between sounds mid-score, then if the original sound was expr, only change to other expr sounds, and if the original was non-expr (because the instrument in question doesn't support SND), only switch to non-expr.
In reply to You shouldn't be using any… by Marc Sabatella
This is a very valuable piece of advice, which I wish I would've known earlier. This thing, the presence of different sounds (expr and non-expr), has been a stumbling block for me for quite a long time. Now, finally, things are getting clearer. Thank you!