flip ornament symbol
Is there an easy way to make a mirror image of an ornament? I want the "combining tremolo 2" but with negative sloped lines.
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Is there an easy way to make a mirror image of an ornament? I want the "combining tremolo 2" but with negative sloped lines.
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The tremolo changes slope to fit the notes. What are you trying to achieve?
In reply to The tremolo changes slope to… by underquark
I basically want a symbol like this, but going up to down instead of down to up. It's not a standard symbol. I was just wondering if there was a simple way to make it in Musescore.
In reply to I basically want a symbol… by RJawad
That is a single note tremolo. It lives in the Tremolo palette. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/tremolo-and-rolls
No need to flip it.
In reply to That is a single note… by SteveBlower
I found that one, but I would like it flipped around so it goes down from left to right. I understand it's not a standard symbol, but it's one I use often and was wondering if there is a way to make it in Musescore.
In reply to I found that one, but I… by RJawad
Why?
In reply to Why? by SteveBlower
The example I gave is not of a tremolo like you would see in a violin score from the 1800s. In the late 1600s, the double stroke was called a shake, but it might have been called something else when that music for virginal was published a century earlier. The single and double strokes are referred to as graces. At any rate, it's not exactly clear what these symbols mean. Here's are a couple of passages from a recent dissertation on the subject.
1) "If it is placed on a note that needs cadential trills, pianists can use a) upper-note trills with termination, b) trills that start on the main note, and c) turns to grace music. When a note with a double stroke appears after a rest, it should be realized with a grace which begins on the main note.
2) "...it seems that the sign was used as an abbreviation for more than one form of embellishment including an upper note shake and an under-shake.
[See further "William Byrd's My Ladye Nevells Booke: A Guide to Interpretation and Performance", Younkyung Rhea Kim, 2023, pp. 29-30.]
I use the symbol because it's easy to write and also for the sake of uniformity. I don't mind that the symbol is ambiguous because it gives the player some freedom, but I still find it helpful to differentiate between the upper and lower shakes. You might say to just use a mordent symbol for the lower shake, but then I run into a problem if the lower shake is on the middle note of a closed triad. So, I keep the old notation but I use an inverted double slash for these lower shakes. That way, I can use the same symbol throughout the score for the same ornament. When engraved properly, the symbol looks a little different when it's placed on the stem than when it's placed directly on the note head, but the basic form is the same.
In reply to The example I gave is not of… by RJawad
It is always nice to learn something new about music. Thanks.
How about using this symbol from the master palette as staff text? Its place in the Baroque section seems like it might be appropriate.
In reply to Well, it is always nice to… by SteveBlower
No, it doesn't look right. Thanks for checking, though. I'm surprised they don't have it because they have a whole bunch of symbols. Is there no way to design a symbol? I'm coming from Finale (which just went out of business). Finale lets you design your own symbols. It was very customizable. That's why I liked it.
In reply to No, it doesn't look right. … by RJawad
As I understand it (and I await correction by those who know more about this than I do), the symbols supported in Musescore are only those defined by the SMUFL specification see https://www.smufl.org/
However, that specification is open to supporting additional symbols if there is evidence of their use "in the wild". See https://github.com/w3c/smufl where suggestions for extensions/changes to the specification are discussed.
Another option for you is to create an image of the symbol with a transparent background and add it to the score where needed, as described here.https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/working-images. Again I await further comment from others who may have used a similar approach, I haven't yet
Good luck!
Open an issue on github for the creation of this symbol to be added to the palette.
In reply to Open an issue on github for… by dj frank rose
Thanks. I finally got around to doing this.