Comments on the fingering palette
Why is there separate "Fingering" and "LH Guitar Fingering" numbers? And, if the LH Guitar Fingering numbers are actually different, why is there a "5"? Here's
a picture of the left hand numbers. IMO, the extra LH Guitar Fingering numbers should be discarded and the letter "T" added (yes, the thumb is used sometimes). Or, failing that, at least get rid of "LH Guitar Fingering 5".
EDIT: I see the difference now, the Guitar numbers appear to the left of the note while the regular ones appear on top. Still, it seems to me that they should be called "Top Fingering Number" and "Left Fingering Number".
Comments
The numbers in circles refer the strings, those without to the fingers.
In reply to The numbers in circles refer by Shoichi
I know. I'm referring to the second set of numbers, called "LH Guitar Fingering 1-5".
In reply to I know. I'm referring to the by JGitar
To go further on this subject, see: https://musescore.org/en/node/36846#comment-165156
and
- https://musescore.org/en/node/36846
- https://musescore.org/en/node/69371
Specifically for LH "5" fingering, go down to three - four comments on the same first provided link.
In reply to To go further on this by cadiz1
Where again? I can't find anything about the LH "5" fingering.
In reply to Where again? I can't find by JGitar
https://musescore.org/en/node/36846#comment-158141 I guess?
In reply to Where again? I can't find by JGitar
@JGitar: Please, have you read the linked threads, in particulier the last four comments of this one? https://musescore.org/en/node/36846#comment-158141
If not, it's a very minor thing. You can delete this LH "5" if you wish. It's that easy.
For summarize:
Indeed (I quote extracts), if "By the way, do we really need the '5' for left hand guitar fingerings? As far as I know, only 01234 are used."
The replies are : "With guitar, '5' is never used as a fretting hand fingering; unlike piano, which labels the thumb as '1', so '5' would be the pinky. With this in mind, it is completely possible that a MuseScore user might prefer the look of the guitar left hand fingering style on a piano score, in which case the number '5' would be needed.":
And:
"But in the end, I did also feel it was harmless enough to keep them and people might indeed want to repurpose them - using piano fingering for guitar or vice versa. Of course, these *are* just text; you can always edit them to say whatever you like."
In reply to @JGitar: Please, have you by cadiz1
Very well, I understand, but can we add a "T" fingering for "thumb"?
In reply to Very well, I understand, but by JGitar
Why not "D" for "Daumen" (the German word for Thumb)? Serious: that's what the "p" in "pimac" is for.
As per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingering#String_instruments
p=pulgar (thumb), i=índice (index finger), m=medio (middle finger), a=anular (ring finger) and, very rarely, c=chico (little finger).
In reply to Why not "D" for "Daumen" (the by Jojo-Schmitz
Some programs (GP eg) offers the choice between T1234 and P1234 for the left hand.
![choice.jpg]( "choice.jpg")
![Thumb main gauche.jpg]( "Thumb main gauche.jpg")
![pimac.jpg]( "pimac.jpg")
Right hand remains pimac. Very few things since we can change it at will.
- To reply directly @ Jgitar: As said, this is text. So, add a fingering (for example, 5!) -> Double-click to switch to Text edit mode -> replace 5 by T, which you can then add to your palette for reuse.
![Thumb palette.jpg]( "Thumb palette.jpg")
The algorithm for figuring out the default placement is actually a biut more complicated than "guitar on left, others on top" - it depends on how many notes are in the chord, how many staves are in the part, how many voices are used on the staff, and other variables. So more to to the point, just assume the ones labelled "Guitar" are specifically intended to be optimized for guitar, the others are intended for other instruments, especially piano, but the specifics of whether they appear at left or at top by default is something that MuseScore handles for you. If you don't like the choice made in any specific case, you can simply override it by dragging it, nudging it with the arrow keys, using the Inspector, etc.
To everyone: thanks for your help. It took me a while to figure out workspaces, etc. but now I've got this:
which is
Piano fingerings
RH Guitar fingerings
LH Guitar fingerings
String numbers
Stuff that doesn't make sense!
In reply to To everyone: thanks for your by JGitar
What doesn't make sense? Don't understand.
You may organize at will and according to your wish this palette: change the location of a fingering (fingerings) by dragging in another cell (cells), delete those which you have not the use, add a new one, etc.
In reply to What doesn't make sense? by cadiz1
Meaning, the last line is full of oddities, such as directions to use the 0th finger, or the 0th string. I realize that I could remove them, but I find them amusing.
"0" is the standard guitar symbol for open string.
In reply to "0" is the standard guitar by geetar
Fair point. I forgot that.