Naming Fretboard diagrams?
Is it me, or is there no way to name fretboard diagrams? Meaning, if I want to save a Cm7 diagram with Cm7 on top of the diagram, is it possible?
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On Nightly:
Right click> Properties
(if you mean this)
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On the score you can enter the Chord (Ctrl + K) and drag into place
In reply to On Nightly: Right click> by Shoichi
After messing around with the fretboard diagrams, they have a long way to go before being useful for guiarists. The diagrams themselves look nice aesthetically, however, without the ability to name them and be able to store many of them with easy recall, then it's not practical. I suggest looking at a program called MusEdit's fretboard diagram feature, chord editor, and most importantly how it stores and recalls chords for usage.
In reply to After messing around with the by mikec
Sorry if I express myself badly, I do not speak English.
MuseScore is a scorewriter and does its job very well. It is in constant evolution, but is unlikely to satisfy everyone, each one has his own ideas and needs (and usually seem to him the priority). In 2012 there was not this feature, it is now available even if not perfect.
As a volunteer I'm here to help out, if and how I can, perhaps fretboard diagrams will be implemented one day. Meanwhile, as you say, there are other software ...
Regards
In reply to Sorry if I express myself by Shoichi
I do understand, I'm just providing feedback on the fretboard diagram feature from a guitar perspective should the developers choose to improve this feature in the future.
In reply to I do understand, I'm just by mikec
Maybe then you can post your ideas or requests here: http://musescore.org/en/forum/7
will arrive certainly a more qualified answer. I can only suggest a few tricks.
Just checking in, has there been any progress on naming Fretboard Diagrams? I'm not talking about tying chord symbols to them, I'm just talking about storing a name with a fretboard diagram. I'm talking with a developer about a plugin and they too said "I can't find ability to name chords, where they're placed on store. I mean, that built-in chord diagram has no property "name""
In reply to Just checking in, has there by mikec
This is still true. Fret diagrams and chord symbols remain two separate entities. You would normally have one of each.
In reply to This is still true. Fret by Marc Sabatella
Well, I disagree, all the books I've seen always have the diagram along with the name of the chord.
And MuseScore used to have this too, IIRC, some year ago? Need to check, but I think the corresponding data structure is still in place.
Edit: checked: class FretDiagram has a member "Harmony* _harmony;", and that is the class used for chord symbols. So some infrastructure seems to be in place
In reply to Well, I disagree, all the by Jojo-Schmitz
I think you misunderstand me. I mean that they are separate elements and need to be added separately, but they will of course *appear* together just like they do in published books.
Indeed, there was at one time some infrastructure in place to allow a chord symbol to be attached directly to a fret diagram, but it was never fully implemented and never actually worked.
In reply to I think you misunderstand me. by Marc Sabatella
Ah, I see
In reply to Ah, I see by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo, does that mean what you said in your previous message isn't valid? My developer informed me that the fret diagrams need to have a name property. I guess this will have to be added to the core program.
In reply to Jojo, does that mean what you by mikec
The developer is correct that there is no way to add a meaningful name to a fret diagram currently, and that this would require changes to the core. However, without understanding exactly what this plugin you are trying to design is supposed to do, it may well be that there is a different way of achieving that end result. So more information on what you are actually trying to do would help. It may well turn out it is already possible to achieve what you want using separate fret diagram and harmony elements.
In reply to The developer is correct that by Marc Sabatella
I want to have a guitar chord diagram system that allows me to quickly create, store and recall diagrams, not in a visual palette, but more of a database type system. Suppose I want to have 14 different versions of one chord at different locations on the guitar neck. The palette system is not efficient for this.
In reply to I want to have a guitar chord by mikec
I think if I were you, I'd be doing this by simply creating a document with all these variations. Or perhaps different documents, one for each root, or one for each basic chord type, whatever. In that document, you can have both fret diagrams and chord symbols already entered, say one per measure. Then it's just a matter of copying and pasting to put these in any given new score.
Anyhow, everything you describe should be perfectly doable as far as I can tell. Like I said, just because MuseScore itself can't associate the fret diagram and chord symbol doens't mean a plugn could not do so simply by storing both of them for each each database entry. Which is to say, if the plugin can be written at all, this in itself should in no way impact it.
In reply to I think if I were you, I'd be by Marc Sabatella
Another thing I just discovered is that fingering numbers, i.e. which finger on each string, under the fretboard diagram are not available.
In reply to Another thing I just by mikec
IMHO a valid request, feel free to submit it in the issue tracker.
Developer said that they would edit the core program to support names for the diagrams. She says it might take a lot of time for that submission to become part of the program though, which is fine with me. Aside from a couple of things, the current version is more than sufficient for my needs.
In reply to Developer said that they by mikec
It would be great if the developer would come here and talk with us. Always available for a chat here, or on IRC #musescore on freenode.net.
To sum up your requests
* Fingering in diagrams
* A database of diagrams and chordnames (I guess these will depend on the tuning btw)
Do you know of any similar database in other software?
You talk about a couple of other things that you would need. Can you elaborate?
In reply to It would be great if the by [DELETED] 5
From what I understand, the developer is going to add the fretboard naming feature to the musescore core program. They told me it would then be up to the developers to add it into whatever next stable version comes out..
In reply to From what I understand, the by mikec
Which developer are you talking about? The number of core developers (the one that put new features in next stable version) is quite small, and I happen to be one of them. I would love to talk with the developer you talked with.
In reply to Which developer are you by [DELETED] 5
No they are not part of the MuseScore team. They are working on a project for me. Part of this project will require adding the naming to the fretboard diagrams to the program. So they will do the work and commit the changes to the code repository. Then you, the core developers of the program, can review the developers work and decide whether to include the feature in future version of the program. That's how it was explained to me anyways.
In reply to No they are not part of the by mikec
It would be a lot more efficient if they talk with us/me beforehand. If they are afraid of public communication, feel free to direct them to https://musescore.com/contact
See also #48431: Unability to save the chords name in the palettes and #20676: Include chord name above fretboard diagram