Tempo Issues
Can u create accelerandos or ritardandos in the music? if so where is it?
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Can u create accelerandos or ritardandos in the music? if so where is it?
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All tempo markings are created via Tempo Text (ctrl-alt-T). No way to make it gradually slow down and speed up - again, MuseScore is primarily about notation, not playback - but you can onsert every beat or two and hide them.
In reply to All tempo markings are by Marc Sabatella
I wonder whether something similar to the Crescendo or Diminuendo Note Velocities plugin is possible for this?
In reply to I wonder whether something by Jojo-Schmitz
I don't think there is a way to get at tempo from the plugin archttecture. If there were possible, though, then this would be a great plugin!
In reply to I don't think there is a way by Marc Sabatella
Or making the tempo available in the plugin arch would be a great enhancement ;-)
In reply to All tempo markings are by Marc Sabatella
Thank you all for the responses I will try what Marc suggested and hopefully thatll work i have no programming skills so ill just wait and see if someone creates a plugin for this or maybe the next update of musescore will focus more on playback
In reply to Thanks for the Responses by xblackravenx
Well, not the next one (1.2, which is imminent) or the next major one after that (2.0) - although I believe the latter does have *some* playback related enhancements. There's still enough left to do on the notation side that playback can't become a major priority quite yet. But there is probably still time in 2.0 to try to round out the plugin framework to support more playback-related features, and if that does happen, then I could try to write a plugin for rit/rall/accel.
In reply to All tempo markings are by Marc Sabatella
Just a little side note to this one, if you put in a load of hidden tempo markings, this will automatically break the multi-bar rests in any parts. Just made this mistake! It thinks that it shoudl show the bars individually because there is important major text information. Of course, since the text is hidden there is no *actual* information to be seen, but you end up with hundreds of 1 bar rests. Grrr.
Is there any magic way to make all the invisible tempo marking visible again so I can take them all out?
In reply to Just a little side note to by RoseRodent
No magic. I have tried adding gradually-changing tempos and have also "lost" them. Insert a few blank measures somewhere later in the piece and copy and paste the music into it seems to drop the hidden tempos.
In reply to Magically remove tempo by underquark
Have you posted a report regarding this? It seems that it would be a bug.
In reply to Just a little side note to by RoseRodent
Have you turned off the display of invisible items? Normally they would still display, as greyed out, so it would still be easy to select and delete them. If you have turned off display off invisible items, you can turn it on again via the display menu.
What I would probably do is
a) not insert so many tempo markings in the first place - MIDI playback is just meant to be a rough guide, and it,s not really worth the trouble of fine timing in that way
b) make a copy of the score - I call it the "print score" - before extracting parts
c) remove the unneeded tempo texts from the print score; I also do things like make sure the page size, orientation, and scaling is the way I will want it for parts
d) extract parts from the print score rather than the master
This workflow will change with 2.0 and its linked parts, so hopefully more comtrol will be offered over the breaking of multimeasure rests.
In reply to Have you turned off the by Marc Sabatella
In my case I'd put in actual blank tempo markings just to make life more difficult (i.e. I'd inserted a tempo marking, set the speed to what I wanted and deleted the text then used the blank tempo marking and changed the speed as necessary) and assumed that was what was meant here; otherwise I could have found them, selected them all and made them all visible again.
In reply to Hidden tempo markings by underquark
Ouch. I suppose you could right click a visible tempo mark and then click "select all similar", then unselect (ctrl-click) the "real" tempo markings.
In reply to Ouch. I suppose you could by Marc Sabatella
Or (at least in 1.1) just copy and paste and a lot of stuff - tempo marks included - gets left behind. Not a problem for me, really.
If I were asked to design the behaviour of tempos I would have tempo created as a property of each individual measure. I would have the act of inserting a tempo mark cause change to the properties of the succeeding measures up until another tempo mark or the end of the section (i.e. stop at any vertical or horizontal frames) were reached.
I would have rit., rall. accel. etc. also act upon the succeeding measures' tempos but maybe build in a default limit of, say, five measures to stop the piece reaching escape velocity. You'd maybe need a property such as "strength of effect" to indicate how gently or harshly you'd want those speed-up or slow-down indicators to work. Right-clicking on a measure could allow you to see the tempo for that measure. Now I know that you'd sometimes want a rall. in the middle of a measure but in that case I'd sacrifice exact playback for the sake of allowing it to appear good in print.
In reply to Hidden tempo markings by underquark
Yep, I did exactly the same thing! I put them all in with no text. I use the MIDI files to send out to players so they have some idea where their part fits in with the overall performance of the work. With moderately experienced players that really helps, as they can see who has the melody when, what it sounds like, the shape of the piece and things. Without the tempo changes it would be one melody then a brick wall into another melody, and since the tempo changes are the hardest part it was the bit I was most keen to demo when I sent out the parts. So although the MIDI is not a major part of what I am doing at this end, I do use it with the players. In future I will make sure to extract the parts from my working copy before I make one specially for the MIDI. It's not a solution to copy and paste it because I will lose all the other markings which *are* meant to be there, and it's over 100 bars of 6 part music. What I might do it copy it out into a new document, delete all the measures, insert the measures and put back the affected section line by line, as it will probably be just articulation and rehearsal marks to put back in, not a huge job. I couldn't work out why it had done this to my parts until I went looking for help and here it is, the problem. At least I will know for next time!