Scoring for Guitar (not TAB)
I am hoping to find some advice in the community regarding notation for guitar. I have a score where pulling-off and hammering-on are essential to the piece. How might I convey that using the MuseScore toolbox?
I have attached a printed example (non-MuseScore) that shows plucked chords (in black) and pulled-off notes (in grey) connected by something like a slur at the stems. The "o" at the end of the something-like-a-slur may be an indication that the pulled-off notes in this case are "open", and I can forego that detail, but that "slur" or something like it would be helpful.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Something is not clear on your image. The pull-off of the first chord (on strings 1,2,3,4) don't correspond with the second greyed chord (on open strings 2,3,4,5). How you do that, since eg the 5th string is not fretted in the first chord, and so, cannot be pulled-off.
![im1.jpg]( "im1.jpg")
![im2.jpg]( "im2.jpg")
In this case (image below), you can do that: fretted strings match with pulled-off strings.
The addition of a slur with the mention (P.O) above, with regular text (this is not implemented yet alas), will be enough - standard display - to the comprehension for the guitarist which will want play these notes.
You can eventually add a "0" to the second chord, for help (in Fingering palette), but not really necessary. It's a personal choice/preference.
Otherwise, provide details on your goal.
In reply to Something is not clear on… by cadiz1
Thanks for asking, Cadiz. It is a 6th position chord, played on strings 234&5. The lowest tone is played at the the 7th fret of the 5th string. An unusual example, I'll admit. It's Jobim's "Batidinha".
So it really is a slur! Well, that was easy. Thank you.
Hey, can you point me to a primer on how to insert inline images in forum messages as you have done above? Very elegant. I see the html command NOT FOUND: xx indicated, but don't know how to use it.
In reply to Thanks for asking, Cadiz. … by zzwerzy
Obviously! Let's try that again:
I see the html command "inline:xx" indicated, but don't know how to use it.
In reply to I see the html command "… by zzwerzy
"It is a 6th position chord, played on strings 234&5. The lowest tone is played at the the 7th fret of the 5th string. An unusual example, I'll admit. It's Jobim's "Batadinha"."
Okay, I understand now. Correct, in this case, indeed.
And for insert an image, after "Choose a file", selecting and opening it, you have to click on "insert".
![insert.jpg]( "insert.jpg")
In reply to "It is a 6th position chord,… by cadiz1
Thanks, friend.
In reply to Thanks, friend. by zzwerzy
Here is the result in MuseScore.
I really love this software.
Thanks, MuseScore. Thanks, Cadiz!
In reply to [inline:Capture.JPG] by zzwerzy
Okay, but be careful not to leave the notes grayed out (ie invisible in the software's langage) .
Otherwise, they will not be printed :)
(if this is your intention, of course)
In reply to Okay, but be careful not to… by cadiz1
I did not know that. These are regular notes to which I assigned a custom color (7d7d7d). I haven't printed it yet, but was expecting that, if printed in grey-scale, they would appear.
In reply to I did not know that. These… by zzwerzy
From looking at the picture is looked like you made them invisible. They should print if you customized them.
In reply to From looking at the picture… by mike320
Oh! Yeah. Duh. That's exactly what it looks like. Here, for comparison, I've revealed the hidden dynamics. They're almost exactly alike!
I wanted a visual cue to differentiate between plucked chords and pulled-off notes. Dark/light/dark seemed a good idea, but changing the color of each note, accidental, and stem was a bit fussy and time consuming, even with copy&paste.
While doing that, I felt there might be a better, more automatic way: some way to, while in note-entry mode, tell MS "this next note/chord should be custom-colored." I'm still a newbie at this. Any suggestions?
In reply to Oh! Yeah. Duh. That's… by zzwerzy
You can change the color on several items of the same type. Select something, then ctrl+click to add to the selection. They do have to be the same type to work, for example all note heads or all stems.
In reply to A chord at a time is the… by mike320
"I wanted a visual cue to differentiate between plucked chords and pulled-off notes. "
Just my opinion: you would save a lot of time - and it is the display usually if not always observed in the published scores -, simply by adding the indication P.O. (Pull -Off)
![pull-off.jpg]( "pull-off.jpg")
When the first one is created (with regular text), then positioned on the first slur, you can copy and paste it to other places.
In reply to Just my opinion: you would… by cadiz1
Good idea! That would save a lot of time in a heavily left-handed piece.
I like your subtle fingering indicators. Staff Text?
In reply to Good idea! That would save… by zzwerzy
" fingering indicators. Staff Text?"
No, simply added from the devoted palette, ie Fingering palette. Note there is two sequences of numbers (0,1,2,3,4,5). The second one is rather used for guitar: the numbers are displayed close left to the noteheads.
In reply to " fingering indicators… by cadiz1
Cool, thank you. I will explore that.
> ...the display usually if not always observed...
I think I understand. You mean "convention", as in 'the conventional (or usual) way something is done', yes? Wondering about the conventional way to express hammer-ons and pull-offs in a pitched score is what motivated me to start this thread. Thanks!
In reply to Cool, thank you. I will… by zzwerzy
" ...the display usually if not always observed...
You mean "convention", as in 'the conventional (or usual) way something is done', yes?"
Indeed, it is I meant.