Triple staff

• Apr 28, 2018 - 18:20

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In reply to by MuseScore Composer

Not sure, what's your aim. Do you mean three staffs for an single instrument (like an organ)? Use the instrument dialogue (shortcut "i" or edit->instruments). Best way would be to search for the instrument you're looking for. Above: With "Add staff" or "Add linked staff" you can add a staff to each instrument.

In reply to by Arpicembalo

Yes, I didn't mean to imply there was never a reason to. But since there was really no information to go on, and so many people seem to be not familiar of how multiple voices work in music, it seemed at the time quite likely the person asking was unfamiliar with the whole idea (" to get any extra note in the bass clef"). So I wanted to be sure they were aware that there are usually better ways of having extra notes in the bass clef.

But yes, as I also acknowledged, in a few cases, it can be useful. Probably something like 1 out of 1,000 or so scores might be published this way, but for those 0.1%, it can make a big difference.

I have found the solution! As you setup a new file and it asks you what instrument, go select instruments, add a piano and above that click "add stave".
That's not all, cos it'll look weird: the bottom stave will be further from the middle one than the middle one is from the top; only the top two will have shared barlines; and the bracket at the beginning of the score will only cover the top two.
To solve this, drag the bracket at the start of the score down to the bottom stave-this will solve two issues as it will automatically adjust the distance between the three staves. As for the shared barlines, simply drag them down to the third stave as well.

In reply to by Will o'the Mill

That bracket drag didn't work for me. However deleting the bracket, then selecting the first bar across all the three staves, then adding the same type of bracket did - and the space between staves was balanced up too.

Perhaps the inter stave vertical gap is too big though - not sure if that can be fixed easily.

In reply to by dave2020X

Dragging the handle on the bracket absolutely works. If you are having an issue with that, please attach the score so we can understand and assist.

The gap between the staves is determined by your style settings as well as the actual music in your score - how much room is required to avoid collisions, how much empty space there is to fill on the page, etc. Again, if you are having trouble, just attach your score and we can probably sort it out for you.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

The bracket does not move by drag here - just after this file has been created - bracket move test.mscz

This is essentially the same file after the bracket has been deleted, and a new one put in place.

If the history is embedded in the file you can see all the changes - though I'm not sure if the history is included.

bracket move test 2.mscz

This was done on an iMac under MacOS Catalina with version 4.6.2

The 2nd try files show the same behaviour - the only difference being that the exact procedure for the creation of the piano stave as mentioned by Will o'the Mill above was followed - using "Select Instrument" rather than "Solo" - then acceessing the instrument/stave menu by using the 'i' on the stave to get the instruments dialogue.

So in neither case does the drag work on my machine. The file isn't exactly difficult.
The behaviour is not exactly as Will o'the Mill described because the drag doesn't work. Otherwise it is very similar.

In reply to by dave2020X

Works just find for "bracket move test.mscz", while "bracket move test 2.mscz" has it set tp span 3 staves already
Works in "Bracket move - 2nd try.mscz" too, and again "Bracket move - 2nd try-v2.mscz" has it set already.

(And no, history is not recorded in scores)

Double click the brace, grab and drag the bottom handle down

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Ah - thanks. It's the double click which I didn't get before. I just tried to move the brace using whatever keys I used to select within MacOS. In the example files I attached previoiusly, the second one in each example shows how I deleted the brace, and then replaced with a new one. If I'd known the double click operation I wouldn't have done it that way.

I also didn't notice the dark square at the bottom before - for dragging on - so perhaps I never did the double click - or in the correct context. Worth pointing out the dark square which appears I think.

In reply to by dave2020X

For the record, double-click is the way to enter "edit mode" for most elements in MuseScore, and that is when you can move them by keyboard, or if they are elements whose shape is customizable, that is when you can reshape them using the handles. True for brackets, notes, stems, articulations, etc. Also double-click is how to edit text. It used to also require double-click to show the handles for lines, beams, and barlines, but sometime within the last year or so that was revamped to work by single click. You can still double-click those elements to go into edit mode, but it's seldom necessary anymore, as the handles appear on single-click. Still, when in doubt, expect that double-click is likely to be the way to edit something in MuseScore.

I know this poat was started 4 years ago but i need to know how I do the following
I have managed to get 3 staves into the piano part but I need the top one to be a String Synth and the otrher two to be the piano how do I do this?
When I change instrument on the top stave it changes all 3!
Thanks

In reply to by jeetee

Indeed.

What jeetee says is that instead of having one instrument with three staves (and different sounds for the different staves), you should have two instruments, one synth with one stave, and one piano with two staves.

So add the new synth instrument, and remove the added (third) stave in the piano instrument. Just as jeetee says.

In reply to by AndreasKågedal

sorry if I have already put this on the forum

Hi no I want a third line on the piano part with string synth
My piano player can split his keyboard so need to keep the treble and base clefs as piano with a treble clef synth above in a thrid stave and need this to sound as string synth
Then I need to print all 3 lines as piano
Thanks Mike

In reply to by Mike Richards

No, you really do want both instruments, because that is basically what the "split" function on the keyboard does as well.
You then also want to make those two instruments appear as one, which can be done by hiding the instrument name on one of them and then extending brackets and barlines as desired.

But if you want the two-instrument playback effect, then you'll need to resort to two instruments.

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