Customizing Places Bar (Measure) Numbers Appear
In my masterscore and parts, bar (measure) numbers currently appear at the start of each system.
I have rehearsal marks, and would like for MuseScore also to show bar numbers at every rehearsal mark.
I’ve scoured the manual, but can’t find a solution. Is there a way of doing this?
Thanks in advance.
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Right-click into the measure, measure properties, change measure number mode to always. Needs to be done for every measure you want it happening, it is not a general setting
In reply to Right-click into the measure… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks again Jojo! :o)
BTW, not sure if you are trying to do this to achieve some unusual look - I don't think I've seen a score prepared exactly this way. But do note there are a couple of built-in features you might find useful if you actually want the rehearsal numbers to appear instead of rehearsal marks, but to look like rehearsal marks. That much is common.
One way is to actually type the measure number into the first rehearsal mark. Then enter other rehearsal marks however you like - enter the measure number or not. When done, select all, Edit / Tools / Requence Rehearsal Marks, and everything will sync up.
Another is to set measure numbers to not show in the style setting, but then set to them Always show in measure properties, and set the Measure Number style to mimic the rehearsal mark style.
In reply to BTW, not sure if you are… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc. For clarity, my rehearsal marks show letters in boxes. Bar (measure) numbers show numbers.
It would still be good if MuseScore could be set automatically to display measure numbers at rehearsal letters, so that players could find their place where successive multimeasure rests (separated by rehearsal letters) show in their parts.
For example, if a conductor says "Alright everyone, let's go from bar 127" and the player's part looks like this:
...then they'd have a harder timing calculating that they had to start from (somewhere) inside [K], than if MuseScore could automatically be set to show bar numbers at every rehearsal letter. Using rehearsal letters rather than rehearsal numbers makes it of course much simpler for musicians to distinguish between bar (measure) numbers and rehearsal letters for sections of music.
In reply to Thanks Marc. For clarity, my… by Film Composer
"Go to Rehearsal mark 'I'" is much easier, isn't it? Alone because they are much bigger and in a box. And they are synced between master score and parts. If ou have rehearsal marks, measure number are pretty much not needed anymore at all. Unless you have too few rehearsal marks or have tham et the wrong places...
In reply to Thanks Marc. For clarity, my… by Film Composer
For clarity, this is what it would be cool for MuseScore to be able to show automatically, without having to add bar (measure) numbers manually at every rehearsal letter...
In this way, if the conductor says "Let's go from bar 127", the player knows instantly that's inside [K] and can follow their part much more easily.
(Font size of bar [measure] numbers should be the same throughout of course.)
In reply to For clarity, this is what it… by Film Composer
I don't see any sense in providing such an option, you can have it already and it I still question the usefullness
In reply to I don#t see any sense in… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm afraid I agree with 'film composer'. I'm writing arrangements for school bands, and having the possibility of having bar numbering (in some way) would be very useful - when needed (not default).
In reply to I'm afraid I agree with … by joesh
That option exists already. Measure Properties > Mesure Number > Show Always
However, measure numbers tend to collide with Rehearsal marks, and if Rehearsal marks exist, those are more likely to get used in ... wait ... Rehearsals!
In reply to That option exists already… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks Jojo, I'd already seen that. However, instead of having to do that manually every bar, it could be useful (for some) to be able show bar numbers using - Measure Properties > Mesure Number > Show Every > X bars. Sorry if the suggestions seem silly for you.
In reply to Thanks Jojo, I'd already… by joesh
I wouldn't mind a single click (i.e. a radiobutton in the "Measure Numbers" column) for "Every", i.e., simpler than selecting "Every n" and cycling it to 1. Measure numbers every measure are invaluable for discussing faults of and corrections to student scores.
In reply to Thanks Jojo, I'd already… by joesh
Showing every X bars is already possible in Format / Style / Measure Numbers. Although FWIW, this is not normally recommend, as Elaine Gould writes in Behind Bars, it leads to the misleading notion that these particular bars have some significance. Every system (the default) is good, every measure (X=1) is good, adding them explicitly (especially as rehearsal marks) at musical phrase / section boundaries is also good. I suppose another interesting option could be to have them added automatically wherever there is a double bar, etc.
In reply to Showing every X bars is… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, but as Jojo pointed out, adding bar numbers at rehearsal marks is a bit the same thing - and by using the Measure properties this is easily done anyhow. However, as others have commented, bar numbers can sometimes be very useful, especially for teaching purposes.
In reply to Yes, but as Jojo pointed out… by joesh
Does this describe what is needed: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/rehearsal-marks#resequence-rehearsal-….
Specifically:
"The following sequences are possible:
In reply to Thanks Marc. For clarity, my… by Film Composer
As mentioned, it's already possible to get this by enabling the measure numbers manually. If this were an approach that is commonly used, I could see making it possible to get this result more automatically, but as it is, I don't personally see it being worth adding yet another option for something that is rarely if ever done in published music. Unless you have examples to show this really is a convention used in the real world? In my experience at least, showing measure numbers on all measures is the much more common solution to this sort of problem. I suppose in principle at least, a plugin could conceivably do what you are asking..
Still, it's not a bad idea, I could see the usefulness in certain cases, maybe based on your suggestion, more editors will start using this approach, and then there would be have more reason to support it directly!
In reply to As mentioned, it's already… by Marc Sabatella
I routinely, and advise others to, enable measure numbers on all measures. Although they sometimes get in the way of score text, being able to cite measures accurately in discussions is such an overwhelming boon I wouldn't mind it being default (not proposing); I know I can create templates.
In reply to I routinely, and advise… by [DELETED] 1831606
FWIW, as an engraver, I dread dealing with measure numbers on every measure because it creates clutter and I often need to make adjustments. But as a conductor, boy am I (and the players) happy when they are present!