Version 3 alpha 2 installing plugins from 2.3.2 and updating
Greetings.
Just started using musescore 2.3.2 to do some work on counterpoint.
Been a long time user of Sibelius but like to use Musescore for additional work.
Questions - if someone could kindly l'ead me by the hand'.
Is the beta version 3 just installed by extracting folder form zip file to desktop?
Will there be an installer for V3 for windows 7 sometime rather than running it from a folder.
And will it coexhist the with 2.3.2 or if intaller will i have to unistall 2.3.2 to prevent clashes/crashing.?
I tried the plugins [for counterpoint which work in2.3.2] and copying them to plugins folder
in V 3 alpha2 But they dont work tho they do appear in the plug in list. I assume then the internal code
for V3 is no longer compatabile wiht the QLMs?
Updates I see there are or going to be updates how are they applied - from within the beta prog I think but any help with that and am willing to give some to testing but Im not very techy geek with the programming stuff. More a user/muso :-)
Being very new to user of MS2.3.2 anyway I may have missed something vital
so please excuse apparent ignorance.
Graham
Australia
Thanks for any helps suggestions.
Comments
Very good questions.
Version 3 will be installed like version 2.3.2 was when you installed it. If history proves to be true, version 3 will be installed next to the version 2.x it is upgrading. I'm not a developer but I expect this to be the case. If this proves to not be true, you will be able to install a portable version for 2.3.2 that will install like the alphas (the beta has not yet been released) currently do.
plugins in version 3.0 are currently broke. I don't see the final of version 3 being released without them working. I hope it gets fixed sooner rather than later so it can be properly tested.
Finally, updates are created every time an issue is updated to "Fixed." I haven't used the update feature for development versions, so I don't know how that works. I do know that you can download the latest 3.0 update from here, just make sure you pick the correct OS. The top one in the list under Master is the last one created.
In reply to Very good questions. … by mike320
Thanks mike 320 for your very prompt reply
- that all gets me right up to speed.
I have alpha 2 in a folder so no sign of alpha 3 so cant test its internal updater
till it alpha3 emerges. Good luck with it.
:-)
Have a good day/night where ever ye be.
graham from the land of oz.
In reply to Thanks mike 320 for your… by graham70oz
I'm in Texas and have a few hours til bedtime. You have a good day also.
Is the beta version 3 just installed by extracting folder form zip file to desktop?
Yes
Will there be an installer for V3 for windows 7 sometime rather than running it from a folder.
Yes
And will it coexhist the with 2.3.2
Yes
or if intaller will i have to unistall 2.3.2 to prevent clashes/crashing.?
No
I assume then the internal code
for V3 is no longer compatabile wiht the QLMs?
Well, sort of, the plugins will need to get adjusted, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/plugins-30 for some initial information about that. But currently the plugin support is pretty far from being functional.
updates how are they applied - from within the beta prog
Yes for Mac, manual process for Windows and Linux see mike320 reply.
In reply to Is the beta version 3 just… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hi Jo-jo
Thanks for reply -all understood however
Why does the "special" .7z top of the list appear to be older than files in the zip with nov 3 date?
Am I missing something? Sorry for what may well be a stupid question.
graham
In reply to Hi Jo-jo Thanks for reply … by graham70oz
This special version is meant for users having created scores with some earlier development versions. During the 3.0 development process the file format had been changed and that special version is the last that can read the old format and save in the new format. Users that started using 3.0 with the alpha versions are not affected by this
In reply to This special version is… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jo-jo
Thanks much for the heads up. yes that makes goodsense.
Just I have come in on it somewhere along/down the develoment path :-)
Yes, i did notice that 3 A1/2 wont raad 2.3.2
Hope the plugins get sorted/rewrittten for V3 format in due course
and will be happy to test.
Is there a compiled list of what V3 can/cant yet do about to be/hopefully sorted someplace
[Non urgent]
graham
In reply to Jo-jo Thanks much for the… by graham70oz
3.0 can read 2.x files (but not vice versa!). If you find 3.0 Alpha 2 or later to not read a certain 2.x file, please report it.
3.0 as of a certain version can't read 3.0 files created with older development versions of 3.0 and that's what that special version is meant for, not something for 'mere mortal' users, more for early testers.
In reply to 3.0 can read 2.x files (but… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo
I have just arrived back from UK
with a humungous cold - installed 2.3.2
whilst there to do some work on counterpoint
on an elderly win 8 laptop.
So kindly forgive me I meant 2.3.2 cant read 3.x
& - {
And yes if I find 3.x alpha cant read any 2.x.x files
or any other oddity I will certainly let you know and send offending file
with bug report to this forum.
thanks again.
graham 2240 canberra zzzz time…
In reply to Hi Jo-jo Thanks for reply … by graham70oz
I think Graham's question "Why does the "special" .7z top of the list appear to be older than files in the zip with nov 3 date" deserves further attention. The reason it is older is already explained above, but one might still question, why is this special version sill listed so prominently? I'd suggest it should be "demoted" so people don't get confused and download it rather than a current build.
In reply to I think Graham's question … by Marc Sabatella
I agree, it should be down with the alphas in its own section.
In reply to I agree, it should be down… by mike320
Mark and Mike - thanks - as a "newbie" to this forum
- it is a tad confusing....
And while I am it how does one manually update version 3
to latest build? Im reasonably handy with win PC [beta tester elsewhere]
but unsure how this one works since theres no installer as to
exactly how this should be done.
Does one pop the entire content of any later build zip file into a suitable folder
on e.g desktop - win7 SP1 here - althogether as there sems to quite a
number of different file typs DLL's etc etc not in any folders in the zip file.
Thanks for your post. :-)
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In reply to Mark and Mike - thanks - as… by graham70oz
I don't program or have anything special. I have one folder I reuse for all of my nightlies. I unzip the new nightly to the same folder and tell it to replace what's there. This is the only thing I've ever done for a nightly and the program works fine. I even have a shortcut I created on my task bar that I never have to update.
In reply to I don't program or have… by mike320
mike 320 thanks
I think I must have the original version 3 which has folder and all sorts
I think - brain bit 'cacked' due to humungous cold.
Will try just doing as you do.
Thanks for heads up on this.
graham.
In reply to mike 320 thanks I think I… by graham70oz
Oh, I didn't think about that. I put the alphas in the same folder I usually put my nightlies in.
In reply to Oh, I didn't think about… by mike320
Try later - busy composing music right now
:-) ♫♪♫
In reply to Try later - busy composing… by graham70oz
Mike - little later - blush didnt see you have to use 7zip to extract and construct
the nightly type folder silly me. All is well now. :-}
I do have a very heavy cold [donated gratutiously by someone] and head full
of gunk.
In reply to Mike - little later - blush… by graham70oz
Don't look at me, I never went near him 😁
In reply to Don't look at me, I never… by mike320
mike 320 not transmissable via emails,electromagnetically
QT5 or any any other ethereal methods... :-)
Send some phlogiston.....
graham
In reply to Mark and Mike - thanks - as… by graham70oz
There's not necessarily a right and wrong way about it, but FWIW:
Since the alphas are in whatever way "special" (if only barely) I personally keep them separate from the nightlies. So I have my MuseScor3 folder, under that a folder for alpha and a folder for nightlies. I unpack the corresponding folders with ZIP files directly into those, so each nightly overwrites the last, and alpha2 overwrote alpha 1.
In reply to There's not necessarily a… by Marc Sabatella
Marc thats what Ive finished up with more by chance. ;-)
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