Appoggiatura too short at playback
Reported version
3.2
Type
Functional
Frequency
Many
Severity
S3 - Major
Reproducibility
Always
Status
duplicate
Regression
No
Workaround
No
Project
Open appending file
Move to bar 39
Start playback
At bar 41 and 43 you will notice that the appoggiatura - an eighth of c sharp - is played as if it were a quarter. The same applies when you choose a 16th as the appoggiatura.
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Comments
This is correct. The standard definition of an appoggiatura is to take half the time value of the main note in simple meter, 2/3 in compound. it's true that in some contexts some performers may make the personal choice to make it shorter, but Musescore goes with the standard interpretation by default. if you wish to tweak the playback further, you can use the Piano Rol Editor.
In reply to This is correct. The… by Marc Sabatella
In the palette one can choose among appoggiaturas of different lengths: quarter, eighth, 16th. However, all of them are played in the same way! That's what I wonder about.
Again, this is correct and by design. Different options for display in the score are provided to accommodate the different ways the appoggiatura can be notated, but they are always played back as appoggiaturas are supposed to be played back.
Meanwhile, it's not out of the question that someday we would provide additional overrides (beyond the piano roll editor) to allow further customization. See for instance #13811: Select playback method of Grace Notes, Arpeggio & Glissando and Articulations & Ornaments. But again, the defaults are already correct here.
In reply to Meanwhile, it's not out of… by Marc Sabatella
I've spoken to some very renowned performers about the appoggiatura on a dotted note, and compared classic performances of the same selection of great works. The 2/3 "default" is just not good enough where it doesn't apply (yes, I know that that's what "default" means). The OP may find this tutorial https://musescore.com/bsg/scores/5446640 helpful on how to wrangle it in the Piano Roll Editor (which is not obvious).
FWIW, I do agree that the behavior on dotted notes is the most obvious room for improvement. If nothing else, we should differentiate compound and simple meter.
In reply to FWIW, I do agree that the… by Marc Sabatella
Making up more complex ironclad rules to be sworn at doesn't seem the way to go (for me). But I don't see how this can be addressed without opening the worm-can of "Why don't you just let me tell you (in notes) how to execute this ornament or appoggiatura instead of telling me?"
To be clear: I totally support the request in #13811: Select playback method of Grace Notes, Arpeggio & Glissando and Articulations & Ornaments to someday allow more and easier customization. I'm just saying, I also do think we could improve the defaults for dotted notes.
I can't argue with the noble proposal espoused by #13811: Select playback method of Grace Notes, Arpeggio & Glissando and Articulations & Ornaments.