r5228 Set Invisible

• Jan 22, 2012 - 14:16

Is there a reason why Set invisible has been removed from the context menu?

Currently the only way of setting anything invisible appears to be the rather unintuitive object debugger.


Comments

"Set invisible" has moved to the Inspector Panel.
The Inspector is faster and more convenient to use than the popup context menus. The plan is to add more and more element properties to the Inspector.

In reply to by [DELETED] 3

More convenient still would be if we could assign a keyboard shortcut. Of all the things that cannot currently be done via keyboard, this is one of the things I use most. Being able to bring up the various properties dialogs (staff, measure, note) via shortcut would also be nice.

In reply to by [DELETED] 3

Revisiting this issue....

"The Inspector is faster and more convenient to use than the popup context menus"

How can it be faster and more convenient than context menus?

Under 1.2 if you want to make a score element you right-click the element and choose "Set Invisible"

Under 2.0 currently if you want to perform the same task you select the element then think: "Oh s**t I don't have the Inspector open" You then open the inspector and choose set invisible.

That is one added step to the operation.

It is the same with the other operations currently inside the inspector.

The inspector occupies far too much screen real estate to have it open all the time.

I propose the inspector be abandoned and that we revert to the original context menus.

In reply to by ChurchOrganist

I agree that for Set Invisible, the context menu is faster - that's because it is always two clicks away (one to open the menu, another to select Set Invisible from the short list of available options). Whereas with the Inspector, you need one click to open the inspector, then you need to hunt around, possibly scrolling, to find the item (buried among a host of much-less-commonly-used parameters like "offtime offset"), then click the item, then another click to make the inspector go away again. Perhaps some would leave the inspector open full time, but I can't see myself doing that unless a way were found to make it far less intrusive.

On the other hand, I do like the idea of the inspector in general. It's an improvement over the properties dialog, which has to be opened and closed element by element, which can be a pain sometimes. All I would ask is that the most commonly used elements from the inspector also be made available directly from the right click menu, and/or via keyboard shortcut (the latter being my own preference). There cannot be any major technical hurdles to overcome here - consider that "flip stem" already works this way - a keyboard shortcut as well as a setting in the inspector. Give me a similar toggle for "Set Invisible" and I'm happy.

I haven't thought through all possible settings, but after a cursory poke around, I think Set Invisible is really the only element I'd use enough to care about here. Maybe a shortcut to toggle the "small" property also, but not that's not common enough to be worth taking up space in the context menu.

In reply to by chen lung

Yes, custom extensions to right-click and shortcut entries would be a big help. Allowing us to specify keyboard shortcuts and context menu entries for anything in the inspector would be one generic approach. Then the inspector would be the 'go to' place for many GUI/customization issues.

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