bug? Corrupted file
When I saved the attached file it was ok. When opened again, muse score has "rearranged" the bars so the file is now corrupted. I there any way to repair that. I could not find anything in the internet.
Thank you for your help
| Attachment | Size |
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| Tardor 2 in Gerona.mscz | 17.22 KB |
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Hello,
What was the main time signature wished for this file? So, no sure the result you expect exactly: maybe the first one?
- A Tardor 2 in Gerona.mscz
or - B Tardor 2 in Gerona.mscz
or - C Tardor 2 in Gerona.mscz
But the most important is to know how this file came into this state (it's not the first one these last weeks/months involved with this 1/4 time sig)
Could you describe with detailed steps the way you did for create this file, and in particular how you did with the time signature 1/4. What was your aim? Create a pick-up measure maybe or not?
So, how do you did, very exactly? (eg, I guess you have deleted the main time signature at a precise moment? And have you created parts with this score at a moment also?)
In reply to Hello, What was the main by cadiz1
Hello Cadiz 1 - thank you for the prompt response.
A B or C - in all places, there are empty measures (whole 4/4 pauses) missing. The original piece has 24 x 4/4 + 1/4 to start.
The file was perfect when I saved it, closed the PC. When I started the PC again and opened the file, this is what I got.
Unfortunately Muse score does not allow attachment of sound files, so I put a link to the mp3 version here
www.spiritmiki.com/Video/Tardor 2 in Gerona2.mp3
Perhaps this helps to understand the original file
Your help is greatly appreciated.
kind regards
Emanuel (Michael)
In reply to Hello Cadiz 1 - thank you for by spiritmiki
ps the automatic weblink truncates the address. Please copy and paste the whole line
"www.spiritmiki.com/Video/Tardor 2 in Gerona2.mp3"
In reply to ps the automatic weblink by spiritmiki
The mp3 will not be of great help. If some measures are missing, you can insert new ones, and complete.
Not a great help because bear in mind that you need to think a little beyond your own file. And so we need your help and that you answer the questions in the previous message to understand what happened to avoid that it will happen again (for us and for you!) :)
In reply to The mp3 will not be of great by cadiz1
Dear cadiz1
I agree that the main issue here is to avoid that this happens again. Perhaps backups will help?
The main measures are reflected in your copy "A". 1/4 leading and 24 measures with 4/4
The first 3 measures in line 1 (Oboe) are now correct, the rest is pushed forward and many measures are missing.
Line 2 (Horn) starts 6/4 too early
Line 3 (Trompete)starts many measures (do not know how many as I cannot rebuild the notation as in line 1 and 2 many measures not only pause are missing, and I do not remember the notation)
Line 4 (Violine) starts correct
Line 5 (Bratsche) should start with Line 1 therefore 4/4 late
Line 6 (Violoncello) Line 7 (Kontrabass) Line 8 (Pauke) Line 9 (Becken) - do not know anymore
Sorry I am working on a German Musescore hope that is ok?
It looks to me that there is a lot of automatic arrangement and also many short keys in MuseScore. This let to problems before, when I have MuseScore open and also for example IE with some help files. If by accident MuseScore has focus then it interprets keyboard input as short key and does a lot of unexpected things.
I cannot rule out, that this happened when I closed or opened the file?? Apart from that I am only aware of saving and closing a perfect ok file which when opened again was corrupted.
So I will be more careful with this in the future.
A bit of background:
I am a "hobby" musician (50 years background) and I am very excited about MuseScore which I found on the Internet some month ago. So, yes I am still experimenting a lot.
I am an engineer and I do quite a lot of Windows based programming (VB.net stand alone applications, but also VBA, office Add-on etc.)
So I believe the situation with "Autumn in Girona" is, that it is lost and in future I should at least make frequent back ups and print the notation frequently.
Kindly advise if there is still any hope to recover the file?
Thank you very much for your prompt answers and help.
In reply to Dear cadiz1 I agree that the by spiritmiki
Does the attached look like you'd like it to look?
I just change a single characer (1->4) in the mscx file contained in the mscz, to fix the broken time sig (actually I had to change it once for every staff to look right)
In reply to Does the attached look like by Jojo-Schmitz
"I agree that the main issue here is to avoid that this happens again."
Indeed, but the main issue is not progressing, alas. To know: when and how did you add the 1/4 time signature, with very precise steps? And why did you delete (and when did you do?) the main 4/4 time signature? Since it does not appear in your initial corrupted score.
In reply to "I agree that the main issue by cadiz1
Dear Cadiz1,
the issue is solved, thanks to Jojo above, but how to prevent it to happening again?
When I got the corrupted file, I tried to sort the measures out by going to different measures. No luck.
Thank you for your help.
In reply to Does the attached look like by Jojo-Schmitz
Dear Jojo-Schmitz
Fantastic!! Thank you very much. The file is perfect.
To use MuseScore, do you think it is advisable that I get into the code of mscx etc.?
I am impressed about the forum. Thank you again.
In reply to Dear Jojo-Schmitz by spiritmiki
"the issue is solved"
The issue is not solved at all (for your file, yes, but only your file). But, eg, not this one, similar: https://musescore.org/en/node/148066. And: https://musescore.org/en/node/141021
"but how to prevent it to happening again?"
That is the question. Alas, apparently, I can not convince you to cooperate in the understanding of this problem, despite my relaunches and questions, which still remain unanswered.
Unless Jojo is able to reproduce from scratch, by now?
In reply to "the issue is solved" The by cadiz1
I don't think I can reproduce.
In reply to "the issue is solved" The by cadiz1
Yes, if I understand correctly Jojo has repaired the corrupted file manually by just changing one letter in the Code.
In reply to Yes, if I understand by spiritmiki
Actually 8 (one per staff), but the last 7 were only needed to make the time sigs look right, only the 1st was needed tfor the file to load without corruption
In <sigN>1</sigN>, changed to <sigN>4</sigN>
In reply to Dear Jojo-Schmitz by spiritmiki
Sometimes it indeed does help to look at the mscx files directly. It's nothing for the faint-hearted though ;-)
In reply to Sometimes it indeed does help by Jojo-Schmitz
Interesting. I looked at the code in editor. Is it html language?
and cadiz1 sorry if I am a bid misunderstanding, but what questions have I not answered?
In reply to Interesting. I looked at the by spiritmiki
"but what questions have I not answered"
See beginning of the thread (my first reply): ie:
"Could you describe with detailed steps the way you did for create this file, and in particular how you did with the time signature 1/4. What was your aim? Create a pick-up measure maybe or not?
So, how do you did, very exactly? (eg, I guess you have deleted the main time signature at a precise moment? And have you created parts with this score at a moment also?)"
And later:
"when and how did you add the 1/4 time signature, with very precise steps? And why did you delete (and when did you do?) the main 4/4 time signature? Since it does not appear in your initial corrupted score."
In reply to "but what questions have I by cadiz1
Dear Cadiz1
yes the 1/4 measure in the beginning was created as a pick up measure. I did never delete the 4/4 overall time signature but changed the property of the first measure, with right mouse click on the measure, to 1/4 length (property).
This was done at the beginning when I wrote the music and worked without problem till I finished everything. I made an mp3 (with lame) and also a MIDI after that I heard the music in MuseScore many times. Closing and opening the file. No problems.
Only much later, I have not worked at this piece at all, I opened it and it as corrupt.
Does this answer your question?
In reply to Dear Cadiz1 yes the 1/4 by spiritmiki
So you created the score with a 1/4 time sig? Rather than creating it with a 4/4 timesig and a 1/4 pickup measure?
In reply to Interesting. I looked at the by spiritmiki
not html, more like XML
In reply to not html, more like XML by Jojo-Schmitz
"I did never delete the 4/4 overall time signature "
What?!
"but changed the property of the first measure, with right mouse click on the measure, to 1/4 length (property)."
Don't understand. You create the 1/4 time sig at the beginning, with the wizard? Or after, in the main score, after the creation, (so, let's say 4/4 default). And if yes, how to do you have proceeded then to obtain the 1/4 time signature?
In reply to "I did never delete the 4/4 by cadiz1
Issue filled: #152506: Introduce a time signature in a measure which the Actual duration is exactly identical leads to corruption/crash