My Project

• Oct 25, 2012 - 01:13

I am working on a project in which I start with 4 or 5 very well known composers such as Bach or Mozart and then gradually make more folders for more less famous composers. How I do it is:

1. Make a new folder and shortcut and name it Musescore Files
2. Make a folder in Musescore Files and name it Classical Music
3. Make four folders in Classical Music and name them accordingly: Baroque Period, Classical Period, Romantic Period, And Modern Period.
4. Make four or five folders in each of those e.g. Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn, Carl Maria Von Weber
5. Make as many folders as composers with that last name unless there is only one composer
6. Make as many folders in the composers folder as types of pieces Eg. Sonatas, Sonatinas, Operas, Concertos etc.
7. If there is more than one type of work such as more than one type of sonata then make as many folders as types of works.
8. Start making pieces by that composer e.g. Toccata and fugue in D Minor
9. When you save make sure you put it in the correct folder e.g. save Pianon Sonata K. 545 in Piano Sonatas

Start with non-religious then if you want go to doing religious works. If you want to know where I get my music from I get it from


I know but I want to do it my own way with as the source for my music. I am even doing Johann Bernhard Bach and Leopold Mozart. In case you want to know the addresss for imslp's orchestral Toccata and Fugue in D Minor here it is:,_BWV_565_(Bach,_Joha… I know it is a long address but that is the address for Toccata and Fugue in D Minor transcribed for an orchestra. I'm working on the woodwind part of it right now, but I will get to the brass and strings. Oh and by the way I made a mistake in there. I meant Piano Sonata K. 545.

In reply to by Caters

I have tried to do Swan Lake, Sleeping Beauty, and The Nutcracker by Thiakovsky but in the whole in instrumentation keeps changing. It is the same with his symphonies and mozarts piano concertos.

In reply to by Caters

Sounds you you might want to look at the Style / General Style / option to "HIde Empty Staves" - that's the usual way this handled. Create staves for all instruments you need, let MuseScore hide the ones you aren't using at any given moment. Just wait to turn it on until you have your notes entered.

In reply to by Caters

Because it is written badly or hastily and the copy is not clear enough? Little way around this, except going where the manuscript is held and looking at it directly (costly! Even assuming the librarians allow access to it). I would look for another source, in this case.

Because it is old music and uses some different symbols and/or some different convention than modern music? If you are going to transcribe lots of 'old' music, it might be wise to invest some time in familiarizing with it. Vivaldi or Beethoven are not so out of reach: start by a page or so, collating it with a reliable transcription, and you will get rather soon the hack of it.

Josquin Des Prez or Marenzio would be a different matter, those notations being different on some structural points, but sources explaining most of the 'tricks' should be available on the web; leaving aside musica ficta with all its traps and open issues, some familiarity with the sources performers of the time had at hand is often enlightening. I would avoid dealing with earlier music (Ars Nova or, even worse, Ars Antiqua) without proper training, though.



If you would like an online home for your project Caters, I have started building a website called The MuseScore Library. It is early days yet, but I have worked out a way of embedding scores from so that people can view and play scores online.

The intention of the website is to provide a base of scores which are specially formatted to be read from tablets and other mobile devices, but there are also moves afoot to provide a repository of scores in MuseScore format for use by educational establishments.

If you would be interested then message me through my account here.

In reply to by Caters

I think that this should be in the how to videos

Anybody who want's to know how to put Piano Concerto no. 21 on musescore Vote

Here is how you do it.

You start off with the allegro maestoso then andante then rondo

1.) Click new
2.) Type in Piano Concerto No. 21
3.) Type in Subtitle K. 467
4.)Type in Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
5.) Type in Lyricist March 1785
6.) Type in Copyright
7.) Put the instruments in in this order:
Flute, Oboe, Oboe, Bassoon, Bassoon, Horn, Horn, Trumpet, Trumpet, Timpani, Piano, Violins 1, Violin, Violins 2, Violin, Violas, Viola, Violincellos, Violincello

8.) Type in the measures box 417 for allegro, 104 for andante, and 447 for Rondo
9.) Select C Major if not already there for allegro, F for andante, And C for rondo.
10.) Put in the notes and multi measure rests.
11.) Click play to hear if it sounds correct
12.) If not adjust the volume, Panning, Reverb, and choral in the mixer
13.) Click play to hear if it sounds correct then
14.) If not follow 12 and 13 again

And that is how you put Piano Concerto no. 21 onto Musescore.

In reply to by Caters

I'm doing things by Chopin now even if I am listening to classical and baroque period music. Has anybody done anything like Nocturne in e Flat by Chopin? Some classical period music that I will be listening to are things like Symphony no. 5 by Beethoven and what I am listening to now, that is Symphony no. 40 by Mozart. Some baroque period music I will be listening to are things like the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor by Bach. The first peices are what chopin wrote most of, that is, dances.

In reply to by Caters

I have a problem with the Sleeping Beauty sheet music. It is that it says 4 corni in F but I dont see 4 notes in the staff and that where it says 2 of whatever instrument there is two of, I see instead of two seperate staves a2 a1 and two notes in one staff. In the parts I can see the notes for each individual instrument but in the percussion I see instead of each individual instruments notes multiple intruments in one staff. What do you think is the best way to work around these problems?

In reply to by Caters

Posting a sample of the score would he, but in general, if it says 4 horns and you see only only one line,that means all four horns are playing the same part. Scores produced by hand often combine parts for multiple instruments into a single staff. The usual way to create scores in notation programs is a single staff for each instrument - much easier to generate parts that way. So just copy the horn line into all four horn staves.

In reply to by Caters

Hard to say for sure without seeing the score, but most likely, those are "cues" - meaning the notes are there only to help the flute player know where he or she is. Cues usually come after a passage with many measures of rest, and they help make sure the player comes in at the proper place and doesn't zone out counting rests and miss their entrance. The cues give them a way of seeing when it is getting close to time for them to re-enter.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I can't find the number of measures of all the parts of "The Creatures of Prometheus" by Beethoven. Do you know how I can quickly find out the number of measures, beacause I don't want to go through all the work of counting and recounting in the pdf file. Please?

In reply to by Caters

You probably don't need to know the number of measures in advance do you? Just create a score with 32 measures and add more when you need them during your transcription. If you add too many measures, just delete them (click the first one, shif click the last one, Ctrl + Delete). If necessary let MuseScore do the counting for you and annotate the PDF along the way.

Is there a place where I can get Peter and the Wolf parts in pdf format for free by just downlading them and not having to buy them.

In reply to by Caters

Are you still entering the notes manually? K550 can be found in several places on the web in different formats that MuseScore can open. Instead of starting from scratch, you could get all the notes in no time. You could then add your own touch (alignment, paper size, slurs etc...) in your own way.

For example K550 first movement is available in NWC format here:
With a copy of NWC it can be converted in NWCtxt in two clicks (Export -> NwxTxt). Then in two more clicks, it can be converted in MusicXML on Open the MusicXML file in MuseScore, and you have all the notes! I posted the MSCZ file online:
Click on the download button on the right side to get a MuseScore file, ready to edit and you can make it as beautiful as you like.

In reply to by Jm6stringer

That's impressive, I guess :-)

So I stand corrected - at least one program has tried to do this. You can decide for yourself if it's anything more than a novelty.

Anyhow, given the number of other playback-related improvements that are far more important than this, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting to see it.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Virtual singer is one of its kind in the music notation software scene.

If you want to investigate singing computers, you might want to check Vocaloid. The software is very popular in Japan, the virtual character on the software box, Hatsune Miky, one of the voice of the software even made large concerts.

A free competitor is Utau. The license of UTAU is unclear to me.

There are several products (Fruityloops) and VST which also features a singing synthesizer.

Other experiments in the open source world, Festival, the open source text to speech engine has a singing mode

Oh and I did an attempt using a now closed web API named Canoris

I am working on the second movement of mozart's piano sonata K. 545 and suddenly I had this error message saying " no note selected. please select a note and try again." when I was in note entry mode trying to put in notes. I closed both the musescore file and sheet music pdf because I knew that that would get rid of the error message. I reopened both the musescore file and pdf and suddenly when I put it in note entry mode it would not enter notes at all. It didn't have the error message but it still did not enter notes. Do you know of some way to fix it?

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Okay here is what I do

1.) Open musescore and sheet music
2.) Set to note entry mode (It is already at sixteenth)
3.) Play notes on my Casio CTK-620L
4.) It does not put in the via midi keyboard and my midi keyboard is connected to musescore. The only way I can put in notes is if I type the name of the note such as G. I have enabled midi input and have not changed anything that would make me not be able to put notes in via Casio. It did put in notes via keboard earlier but now it does not do it. Can you help me? And here is the finished Piano sonata K. 545 First Movement. I am using Windows Vista. When I am Doing Something by Mozart I Most of the time put the Kochel Number in either Lyricist or Copyright but Usually Lyricist. I somtimes put it in subtitle if there is just one part of the song. You should see in both peices in the lyricist space K. 545 And here is the second movement finished by typing the notes in.

In reply to by Caters

So, you're saying we should open the first of these attachments - Piano Sonata no 16 second Movement.mscz? When you do you click to begin note entry? Again, listing exact steps is always most helpful. For example, here's what I tried:

1) Plug in keyboard
2) Start MuseScore
3) open Piano Sonata no 16 second Movement.mscz
4) click the first sixteenth res in the bottom staff of measure 61
5) press N to enter note entry mode
6) press middle C on keyboard

This works just fine for me. Have you used MIDI entry before? Is your keyboard set up correctly? Did you make sure to start MuseScore after connecting the keyboard?

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I already have the keyboard plugged in. I turn on the keyboard before I click on note entry mode and after I open musescore. And do you use IMSLP for your sheet music like I do or do you go to some other site where you might have to buy some pieces of music? What is your OS and version of it?

In reply to by Caters

I'm using MuseScore 1.3 on Windows. I don't see what IMSLP could possibly have to do with anything. Nwhere in the steps I outlined above does any web site of any kind come in to play. i follow those steps exactly, to the letter, nothing added, nothing removed, and it works. So the question is, if you follow those exact same steps to the letter as well - again, nothing added, nothing removed, are you saying that when you press middle c pn your keyboard after following the preceeding steps precisely, it doesn't work for you? If ao, then I woild again ask if you have ever used MIDi inout before - on other wors, do you inow everything is actually hooked up correctly? Des it work for other scores following that *exact* same series of steps (except perhaps choosing a different place to click before pessing N), and something is unqieuly different about this score? Or is it just that somehow MIDi doesn't work at all for you with MuseScore?

Hmm, I just you said you turn the keyboard on after you open museScore. That doesn't generlly work. In my experience, you have to do it in the roder i described: get the keyboard fully conneced (which includes being powered on) before starting MuseScore.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

It used to work that way because of the midi settings on musescore and I tried doing it in the order that you described and it used to work both ways but now I always have to type the note and control up of control down to change octave and shift 0-9 or alt 0-9 to make intervals and control 2-9 to make groups of notes from eighth note duplets to triplets and so forth so I don't know what is going on. Could I have accidentally changed the midi settings when I was wanting to change color of the score? And I use IMSLP because most of the classical music it has is free to download so I can just look for the composer and/or piece of music by typing in the google search. For example If I want a piece by Mozart like a piano concerto or something I can just type in the google search box Mozart and it will give me three composers as well as pieces by those composers. And then I can click on Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart IMSLP on google and it will lead me to an alphabetical list of all of mozart's pieces that are available. When I was looking for three piano sonatas by mozart I searched for Mozart and then looked at the Mozart's Werke catalogue and it had sonatas as a section of it so I just scrolled down until I had the piano sonatas I wanted which were Piano Sonata no. 1, Piano Sonata no. 11 and the most famous Piano Sonata no. 16 also known as Sonata Semplice or you will often see on disks with mozarts music that sonata labeled Piano Sonata K. 545.

In reply to by Caters

I am using Musescore 1.3 on windows vista. I am using it because in another post somebody replied that things like not hearing something with three violins well from the computer but with two violins there is no pause unless there are rests in both staves would be fixed in that version of musescore. I have also heard that the creshendo diminuendo problem with the hairpins and text and posibly even turns and mordents and trills would be fixed in Musescore 2.0.

When I try to do Chopins Nocturne in B Flat Minor Opus 9 no. 1 or the more famous Nocturne in E flat Opus 9 no. 2 I run into this problem. The Problem is more prominent in Opus 9 no. 1. It is the fact that the music has a regular left hand but an irregular right hand. Is there any workaround for this or am I just going to have rests in the left and right hands?

When I try to do Chopins Nocturne in B Flat Minor Opus 9 no. 1 or the more famous Nocturne in E flat Opus 9 no. 2 I run into this problem. The Problem is more prominent in Opus 9 no. 1. It is the fact that the music has a regular left hand but an irregular right hand. Is there any workaround for this or am I just going to have rests in the left and right hands?

When I try to do Chopins Nocturne in B Flat Minor Opus 9 no. 1 or the more famous Nocturne in E flat Opus 9 no. 2 I run into this problem. The Problem is more prominent in Opus 9 no. 1. It is the fact that the music has a regular left hand but an irregular right hand. Is there any workaround for this or am I just going to have rests in the left and right hands? I also have a problem with the turns in the Nocturne in E flat. When I try to make sixteenth note quintuplets it doesn't work but when I make sixteenth note triplets from eighth notes it works. Should I do quarter note than control 5 because I want 5 sixteenths to fit into one eighth note just like in the sheet music. Is there a way to fix that too.

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Nocturnes Opus no. 9.pdf 1.84 MB

In reply to by Caters

Its always better to start new threada for new questions, and to post the actual MSCZ you are working with. Then describe exactly, step by step, what you are trying to do, what you expect to see happen, and what you see instead. The PDF will also help but only if you twll us exactly what measure you are trying to copy, but even so, wed still want to see your MSCZ file so we can see what you have so far and understand better how you are trying to do it, As it is, there is simply not enough information for me to be able to help. I can tell you that rests can be hidden (right click, set inviaible, also there is such thing as cross staff beaming (see the Handbook for more info) and that might ir might not be relevant. And tuplets are entered by first choosing how long you want the whole thing to last, then ctrl-number. As if you you want five notes that add up to a quarter note, select quarter note then crel-5. If you want them to add up to an eighth, select eighth then hit ctrl-5.

I have made an accidental test using accidentals on the note B. I want to put more accidentals in there but all I have is the flat, sharp, double flat, and double sharp. All the other accidentals either involve quarter tones or can't be done in my opinion like the triple flat and triple sharp. When will musescore be able to recognize quarter tones and make the quarter tone accidentals have their true sound?

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Acidental Test on B.mscz 2.27 KB

In reply to by Caters

As I've mentioned before, it's always better to start *new* threads to ask new questions, rather than tacking on to unrelatd older ones.

Anyhow, fyi, you can use Note Properties (in right click menu) to alter the tuning to get any desired microtonal effect.

In reply to by Caters

...given enough sharp/flat accidentals (triple, quadruple, quintuple, sextuple, etc.) a tune could theoretically be written with just a single pitch, modified by the appropriate accidental to create a melody.
I imagine that's why 'modulation' exists - to 'shift up' or 'shift down' the tonality (pitches) of a melody by changing the key signature to avoid a plethora of accidentals. Your attachment could employ key signature changes to modulate, instead of using accidentals.

With regard to triple flats and triple sharps:
mentions that they are "more theoretical than practical".
(Although they may be available in the next MuseScore release.)

Concerning playing quarter tones in MuseScore:
Although MuseScore is primarily a musical notation software, some users (to their credit) do push the playback envelope. If necessary, you can set the 'Tuning offset' in Note (chord) Properties to produce quarter, or other tones.


P.S. Also, since this thread is 'all over the place', consider posting a new Forum topic for any new issues (as was already mentioned).

P.P.S. Symphony no. 1.mscz
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