Glissando in Tablature
In a score I have, the glissando is in the pitched stave, but not in the tablature.
Is this correct?
Does MuseScore do the same?
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No idea what MuseScore would do! Try and see! ;-)
No idea if that source is correct either: a 'real' guitarist could help, I'm only a poor viol player...
M.
I forgot that I can't :): #19179: Cannot apply glissando to grace note after note
In a basic test, I tried applying a glissando to the first of two normal notes in an 'Electric Bass (4-str. TAB)' score, but it didn't appear.
Glissando does seem to exist in tablature, according to this .
Are you able to help solve this, Michael :)?
In reply to I forgot that I can't :): by chen lung
Glissando is usually referred to as a slide in guitar playing, and it should definitely be used in TAB, the sign being the same as in conventional notation.
HTH
Michael
In reply to Glissando is usually referred by ChurchOrganist
Hmmm... I trust you blindly, but I do not understand a detail: the conventional notation sign is a slanted sign from the height of the starting note to the height of the ending note.
On a guitar, this is usually done on a single string, so on TAB's the starting and ending note would be at the same height and the sign would be horizontal. Am I missing something?
M.
In reply to Hmmm... I trust you blindly, by Miwarre
Ah the sign is slanted in the appropriate direction, but as the two notes are next to each other in Tab the sign is always very short.
It is also always added to the second note of the series, a bit like a slanted dash but longer.
In reply to Ah the sign is slanted in the by ChurchOrganist
Is this a reliable example?
From this example I gather that:
1) The line is a straight line
2) It is slanted up or down according to the glissando direction but the angle is not affected by the actual interval
3) The upper end of the line is at mid-height of the relevant fret mark (the starting one for descending glissando and the ending one for raising glissando), in fact it is at string line height
4) The other end is 'just below' the fret mark
Correct?
M.
P.S.: I looked at the code and there is nothing obviously preventing some attempt of glissando to be drawn in TAB's (which does not mean it would be drawn correctly); more investigation needed...
In reply to Correct? by Miwarre
Yes that is exactly correct: The example is just how I would expect it to look.
In reply to Yes that is exactly correct: by ChurchOrganist
Glissandi do show up in TAB, in both flavours (just dragging gliss. symbols to note, without any customization, on today commit):
NOT FOUND: 1
Of course, as there is no specific code, they look wrong. However, adapting for TAB's the existing code should not be a very big deal; so, expect it sooner or later (don't hold your breath, though...).
As we are at it, I think that, when dragged on TAB, in addition to the specs outlined above, the glissando symbol should:
1) If wavy line, change to straight line
2) default to no text added (no "gliss.")
Agreed?
M.
In reply to Thank you, Michael! by Miwarre
This is how TAB glissandi of the previous example look after some retouching at the code (no change at the score):
NOT FOUND: 1
Acceptable, as a starting point?
M.
In reply to Amost there? by Miwarre
Looking good Miwarre :)
In reply to Looking good Miwarre :) by ChurchOrganist
I'll post the pull request.
I expect there will be fine points to tune, but it should be a nice starting point.
Thanks,
M.
I can do glissando with some notes, but not those in the attached PDF.
Can you try? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I'm just entering them randomly.
Using MuseScore 2.0 Nightly Build (40e5376) - Mac 10.7.5.
In reply to I can do glissando with some by chen lung
Apparently, it work for me. I have the updated code, which shows a better shape, but you should get something, even weird.
NOT FOUND: 1
Sure to drop the gliss. symbol on the note (i.e. fret mark)? Does the note turn red?
M.
P.S.: I wonder how such a glissando could be done, across two strings, but this is a problem of the player, not of MuseScore!
In reply to Works for me by Miwarre
I can now, but I think I now realise why I couldn't - I entered crotchets at different points in the bar (it is possible to enter four), but the lack of rests made me think it was two minims - is this a bug?
Perhaps some published scores have them and others don't?
In reply to I can now, but I think I now by chen lung
No, hidden rests is not a bug: in tablature configuration ("Style | Staff styles"), you may turn rest display on and off. It corresponds to different tablature styles.
The most common is probably (but opinions possibly diverge) the one without rests and this is why the default TAB style has them off, but I agree that having them shown by default may make easier data entering.
Given this topic is on glissando, if you think this point needs a deeper discussion, feel free to open another topic and / or an issue.
Thanks,
M.
In reply to No, hidden rests is not a by Miwarre
Thanks!
I was wary, but couldn't resist asking in this topic :).
Fixed in commit 0b00926e8 .
Tests welcome!
M.