Midi input problem when chosing partitur template

• May 20, 2018 - 16:20

Hello everybody,
i'm experiencing a problem new to me, since i've always been starting with single tracks for each respective music instrument first, and then produced the partitur afterwards.

Now i've found out, i can't deliver midi notes via my midi-instrument, when a partitur (and a particular track/instrument, say, violin) is chosen from the start:

The midi input via midi-instrument works very well when creating a single instrument sheet - but somehow when opening the partitur template, prepared f. e. for four different instruments, i am only able to put in notes manually... my midi-instrument then will be heard when played but it produces only (randomly?) one sound, no matter which instrument within the partitur, trombone, horn, violin or so, had been selected.

Is there a way to fix this, or do i always have to start writing single instrument tracks and combine them when finished?
This is rather awkward...

Many thanks for your help, i really do appreciate it!
Arne


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It sounds like you are saying you can use the MIDI input feature for most scores, but with one particular score, it does not work? In order to help, we would need you to attach the score and give us precise step by step instructions on how to reproduce the problem. Also say what settings you have in Edit / Preferences / I/O and in View / Synthesizer.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Marc -
many thanks for your reply.
I have been using Musescore successfully in the past, a few years ago... no problem. Even for little multiple instrument voice scores (4 strings, to print out for real-instrument overdubbing to existing music tracks), worked very well - i don't remember any such very strange behaviour.

Now i'm very sure i could then easily insert notes via midi-controller in a multi-voice setting also when i first wrote things 4 yrs ago, and could later extract them onto single-voice sheets. ( - ?)

Never did i change midi-controller and/or settings... so what has happened?

I wonder if i shouldn't have been updating to version 2.0.3 ... (?!)

I don't know what you mean by "View / Synthesizer" - ?
But in the preferences, in the "I/O" the proper midi-controller is chosen, and the "device" is set to the "microsoft soundmapper" (is that the "synthesizer"?), i guess this is correct since i always worked with that(? probably...) and since i have to use the pc's ugly soundfonds - my Musescore's midi-in isn't in connection with my audio interface, which in this case only "plays back" (when not used for recording wav files).

I have to confess i use the german version, tab and tool titles and names might be different.

As for a more detailled technical explanation -

as i said, i can still insert notes easily using the midi-controller when creating just a single-voice-"score", it still works as it should.

But whenever i open a partitur-score-template and pre-arrange for, say, 4 pre-chosen instruments/voices on one sheet - although the midi-controller's sound (randomly chosen from the 4 instruments, sounds like trombone) can be heard when playing the controller - only in this template nothing can be added to the score other than by mouse, manually.

Simply said, when clicking the "N" /note-insert button, the sound from the controller immediately stops -
and notes can only be inserted via mouse.
Unchecking the "N" button, the sound from the controller is right back.

Of course, here there is no "score" written yet to be played back - i'm still trying to figure how to get notes into the score via the controller when using a multiple instrument template, "Partitur".

Means - at the moment there's nothing other then 4 chosen instruments, no notes written, nothing, settings as explained above.

Did i overlook anything?

Whatever... it's very strange, since exactly what does not work now in the Partitur-template still works perfectly well when going back to creating a brand-new, one-instrument/voice "score".

Hope i get across what the problem is... does it make any sense to you?

I simply can't figure what should/could be fixed in the general preferences to make it work for more voices in a piece... - ?

In the preferences on all scores the midi-controller is activated... sure, otherwise i couldn't hear it/it wouldn't work in the one-voice-score mode.

Seems weird to me, for as i said, i'm sure i've used all that before.

Where/what is the difference in general/other midi-setting when wanting to create a multiple-voice score?

Wonder why there should be a technical difference in getting notes into the score when the only difference is the number of instrument voices being used...(?!)

Many thanks for your help... frustrating, since i'm a bit in a hurry getting a score done and have to tinker with this strange technical thing...
All the best,
Arne

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Oops - the update to v2.2.1 has solved the problem!

Jojo-Schmitz and Marc - thank you very much for your input.

I still wonder why it has worked in version 1 and had a problem later on... but now in 2.2.1 it seems to work flawlessly.

Pardon me, i just haven't seen there's a newer version out since my last update...

So, thanks again - all the best
Arne

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

quote: It sounds like you are saying you can use the MIDI input feature for most scores, but with one particular score, it does not work?

Again, just in short this time ;-) -
YES, i can use the MIDI input on ALL scores.
Only: i cannot use the insert-notes-via-MIDI-controller, when chosing the MULTI-voice template "Partitur".
Than (and only than) i can only use the mouse to insert notes.

Everytime i use just 1 voice - everything works fine.

So, it seems the problem only appears when chosing that particular template, "Partitur" - a bug in the current version?

Thanks + all the best,
Arne

In reply to by moses_pray

I'm not sure what "Partitur" refers to, but it sounds like it is a particular template - I guess not one of the standard ones, but one you created yourself or downloaded from somewhere? Or maybe it's a mis-translation of one of the standard names? In any case, it still sounds like a problem with a specific score or template, so please attach one - a sample score created from the template, or the template itself - so we can investigate.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Oh (surprise), pardon me - "Partitur" is simply a classical term for "score".
I didn't know you're not familiar with this (probably german) term (only?).

So - i've been using just a standard template to chose from the menu when opening Musescore.
I think in this case i chosed the 4-voice template called "chamber music".

No, i didn't create any specific template... it's just been picked as it appears in the menu, all settings exactly as everywhere where they do work perfectly well...
for example, when opening a piece with only a single voice i've just written a few days ago - here, i can still fill in and alter notes via midi-controller.
There are no differences in settings to the multi-voice score - but as i said, it doesn't work when starting a new (full, multi-voice) score.

Any idea?

I don't know what to attach - an empty, default template from everybody's menu? (Btw, how to do that?...)
Or a jpg of an empty "score"?
Or - probably the only solution - jpg's of all settings?

Thanks again...

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

"Partitur" - a classical term for "full score". We wouldn't usually use it for a piece with only one instrument/voice being selected, that's why i used it to distinguish the (in my case not working) multi-voice score from the (working) 1-voice-piece.
If this is of help...

(Funny - i have no idea where i've read the word in Musescore - but i was absolutely sure i picked a template with that title ;-) ...)

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