Chord Degree Notation (Roman Numerals)
Hi All,
I've been wanting to use jazz chord degree notation (Roman Numerals) in MuseScore for some time now. I finally had the time to put together a copy and paste mscz reference for myself and thought it might be helpful to others here.
I was going to use the Mehegan format but his work was never really adopted. I tried to stay within convention as much as possible.
It's done with Staff text in MS 2.3.2 MS 3 has not worked well on my computer.
Please comment with any improvements or additions you may have.
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Can you explain which specific version of MuseScore 3 you tried, and what went wrong? Could well be a bug that was fixed already, but if not, we'd need to know about the problem in order to fix it.
Anyhow, the upcoming 3.3, currently available as a release candidate, has support for RNA built-in, with automatic formatting via the Campania font that works quite well:
In reply to Can you explain which… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Mark,
Happy Friday. The Campania font looks great! Glad RNA is adopted. Would I access that in Figured Bass?
On MuseScore 3: Windows 10 Home, Celeron 2.16G, 4GB Ram. Plenty of free Hard Drive space.
The program loads REALLY slow would be where I start. I've experienced other issues but presenty I cannot remember them because I've been back to 2.3.2 for a month now after a quick trial of 3.
To sum, I was not happy with the performance of 3. I have it on my machine in case I encounter MS 3 files.
Why you coudln't make the 3 mscz's compatable with 2 likely is a coding restriction.
I'll try 3.3 when the stable release drops.
Thanks much to the whole MuseScore team for all that you have done,
E :)
In reply to Hi Mark, Happy Friday. The… by eddiewolf
Roman numeral analysis is it's own thing, a separate item in the Add / Text menu with its own font.
If you use RNA, it would be extremely helpful to the community at large if you install a release candidate to help test.
Overall MuseScore 3 should be considerable faster than 2.3.2. Slow startup could be a result of you having tried installing the MDL extension or some other large add-on. If you dind't, then there is probably some other incompatibility with something on your system. All the more reason it would be extremely beneficial if you'd try again and report your findings and help us investigate so we can fix any problem that might exist on our end.
In reply to Roman numeral analysis is it… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc,
I do have MDL installed but no issues with 2.3.2.
I'll have a go at the release candidate.
Thanks Much,
E :)
In reply to Hi Mark, I do have MDL… by eddiewolf
If you have MDL installed on 2.3.2, you should also be seeing very slow (eg, two minutes or so) startup there too. unless you deleted the soundfonts that come with it, in which case you won't get playback of MDL instrumentation but will get normal/fast startup. In MuseScore 3
you can do the same. In either version, you should startup in seconds normally, in minutes if you have MDL installed normally, seconds again if you delete the soundfonts but leave the rest of MDL installed.
In reply to Roman numeral analysis is it… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc,
Getting back to you on the slow loading of 3.2.3 if that's expected with MDL then that may have been the case. I was watching it in task manager and it was loading a range of 2-6MB per second. A few packets were a bit larger but not by much.
I also found an update glitch with my Windows machine so I last resort reset the darn thing and am currently in the process of getting up to date with that. So that also may have been the issue like you mentioned. I'll keep you "updated" :P
In the meantime I'm using RC 3.3 on my linux machine under the latest Mint release 19.2 Tina and it works just fine. I've used Shift+R for the RNA shortcut. One thing I would ask is for the person tasked with that to make both default placement options (Below, Above) available in the Style menu instead of just in inspector. I may be missing it and if so apologies for doing so ahead of time. I prefer the default placement to always be Above.
I wish he could do it in MuseJazz font too :)
Thanks much for your time.
Until later,
E :)
In reply to Hi Mark, Getting back to you… by eddiewolf
Thanks for the feedback!
You can use the "Set as style" buttons (icon "S") in the Inspecor to make most settings you make there into style settings.
As for MuseJazz, in theory one could adapt pretty much any font for RNA using the same techniques I used in constructing Campania (which was adapted from Doulos SIL). Someday I may indeed do this for MuseJazz :-)
In reply to Thanks for the feedback! You… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc,
3.3 Release runs just fine under Windows 10 v1903 clean install. Forget MDL for me I only use the packaged drumset anyway.
Thanks for all you guys do,
E :)
In reply to Hi Mark, Happy Friday. The… by eddiewolf
RNA will be a its own text entry mode that will use the Campania font to convert your input to RNA. It will be in 3.3.1 for sure though Marc is pushing for its inclusion in 3.3. You should be able to use it to replace other text by changing the font to Campania if it's installed on your system. This will be impossible using Figured Bass because it uses its own font that you cannot replace.
In reply to RNA will be a its own text… by mike320
Hi Mike,
This is good news to me and Marc knows best :)
Thanks for all you do at MuseScore,
E :)